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How do you protect your sensitive equipment from tc interference?

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brandon3055
Fri Jun 22 2012, 12:18AM
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Dose anyone know.if the problem it rf or em interference if its em would it be possible to use a powerful magnet to block the interference?(i probably don't know what I'm talking about)
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2Spoons
Fri Jun 22 2012, 02:13AM
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A magnet wont block anything - it just adds a DC field.
You need a metal box!
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PhilGood
Fri Jun 22 2012, 07:08AM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

I assume the problem is that the camera is controlled by the touchscreen.
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That's is. The phone just acts as if you were typing randomly and quite fast everywhere on the screen.
I can understand capacitive touchscreen is sensitive to e-fields.

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brandon3055
Fri Jun 22 2012, 07:26AM
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2Spoons wrote ...

A magnet wont block anything - it just adds a DC field.
You need a metal box!
Would a sheet of steel say .5 to 1mm thick on the back of my phone help at all?
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Steve Conner
Fri Jun 22 2012, 07:37AM
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No, you need to put a shield over the touchscreen and then you can't work the phone. Catch-22 tongue
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Sigurthr
Sat Jun 23 2012, 10:22PM
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I've had good luck from a very basic faraday cage made of aluminium foil wrapped around my phone and hand with a hole for the camera lens and a hole for me to see the center of the screen (for alignment).

TC frequencies are typically very very large wavelengths so you don't need to cover every square cm to keep most of the interference out.

It could also be my iPhone3GS isn't that sensitive to interference.
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PhilGood
Sun Jun 24 2012, 01:13AM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

No, you need to put a shield over the touchscreen and then you can't work the phone. Catch-22 tongue
Lmao !

Whe need to find some conductive but transparent and flexible material. What about these antistatic plastic bags used for sensitive components ?
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Killa-X
Sun Jun 24 2012, 02:50AM
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My HTC EVO never had an issue 10ft from my 350khz sstc or 50khz drsstc...nothing in my room including my computer has troubles with them..
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Ben Solon
Sun Jun 24 2012, 04:08AM
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PhilGood wrote ...

Steve Conner wrote ...

No, you need to put a shield over the touchscreen and then you can't work the phone. Catch-22 tongue
Lmao !

Whe need to find some conductive but transparent and flexible material. What about these antistatic plastic bags used for sensitive components ?
Catch-22... 2? A capacitive touch screen sensed the em field of your finger it's not pressure sensing or resistive, so any kind of em shielding in between you and the screen doesn't allow you to use the screen. No matter how clear or flexible.

I think that the only solution would be a box big enough for both the phone and your hand to be able to Manuver inside, with a small hole or duct for your hand to enter. The box itself would have to be glass or acrylic(or any other clear rigid substance) with metal screening of the right sized holes to filter out the noise.

Just my 2 cents smile
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PhilGood
Sun Jun 24 2012, 05:25PM
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ben123324 wrote ...

PhilGood wrote ...

...Whe need to find some conductive but transparent and flexible material. What about these antistatic plastic bags used for sensitive components ?
Catch-22... 2? A capacitive touch screen sensed the em field of your finger it's not pressure sensing or resistive, so any kind of em shielding in between you and the screen doesn't allow you to use the screen. No matter how clear or flexible...
Well it works, probly because when you push the conductive film towards the screen, it changes the capacitance of that screen area.



Unfortunately I couldn't check if it effectively protects the phone from e-fields, my only TC was not ready to run, I'll try that later.

Now if it works, for a reliable operation, it requires that the antistatic film is tight close to the screen but without touching it, ~2mm seems fine, could be done with a sipmle plastic frame having the size of the screen.
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