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zippotix
Mon Jun 18 2012, 05:32PM
zippotix Registered Member #5208 Joined: Thu Jun 07 2012, 06:12PM
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Sorry for being such a pain in the a$$ :). I saw your video of ZVS, and what caused the fail of flyback? Secondary got burtn, yes?
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Newton Brawn
Tue Jun 19 2012, 03:11AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Zippo !

The capacitor MUST BE IN SERIES with output uf the halogen transformer !

If you put the cap in parallel with the hallo trafo >> PUF! the cap or the hallo is finished !

Regards

Newton
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Dri0m
Tue Jun 19 2012, 05:31AM
Dri0m Registered Member #4497 Joined: Thu Apr 19 2012, 12:53PM
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zippotix wrote ...

Sorry for being such a pain in the a$$ :). I saw your video of ZVS, and what caused the fail of flyback? Secondary got burtn, yes?

well, I had 50kV on output, and arc started directly on DST and burned it's surface, but it can still work if i clean it :)
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zippotix
Tue Jun 19 2012, 01:50PM
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Oh, well, but these arcs were insane :). Hey Dri0m, I can't get torroid ferrite, but I have broken flyback core. I was thinking that it could work similar as your inductor. I'm posting the pic, please tell me what you think Link2
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Dri0m
Tue Jun 19 2012, 02:56PM
Dri0m Registered Member #4497 Joined: Thu Apr 19 2012, 12:53PM
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zippotix wrote ...

Oh, well, but these arcs were insane :). Hey Dri0m, I can't get torroid ferrite, but I have broken flyback core. I was thinking that it could work similar as your inductor. I'm posting the pic, please tell me what you think Link2

You can use any ferrite core, but idk how many turns, i think it should be >50 turns. i don't have any free DST ferrite, so i can't measure it.
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zippotix
Tue Jun 19 2012, 06:43PM
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Hm, ok. One last question (I hope, lol); can I power the ZVS with halogen transformer if it's AC?
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zippotix
Wed Jun 20 2012, 03:59PM
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Nevermind, I assembled the zvs as on the circuit, but I'm sure I did something wrong. All it gives is slight humming and when I touch the HV ground pin it sparks with barely visible very small "arc". Guess I'm not cut out for electronics ;), I give up.
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brandon3055
Wed Jun 20 2012, 11:38PM
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zippotix wrote ...

Nevermind, I assembled the zvs as on the circuit, but I'm sure I did something wrong. All it gives is slight humming and when I touch the HV ground pin it sparks with barely visible very small "arc". Guess I'm not cut out for electronics ;), I give up.

Don't give up just try again it onec took me 4 hours to find a faulty trimmer but that's no reason to give up
Btw sounds like its working maby there's not enough power how many primary turns are you using? Also I get 1mm arks when I fry the transformer but that seems unlikely in your case since you haven't had it running yet but try changing it anyway maby the tv you got it from had a bad flyback
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zippotix
Thu Jun 21 2012, 07:55AM
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Destroyer of mosfets, thanks, I'm gonna give it another shot. I dismantled the whole thing and will start from the begining. I tested flyback with SMPS, and it works like nothing happened. I'm certain I connected the mosfets correctly, but messed something up with 4007's and zeners. Maybe it's like that cause I plugged 11VAC in there, and it runs on DC only? Oh, and inductor (self wound 25 turns, toroid from PSU) gets very hot after a while of "running". Primary on flyback is 6+6turns. Oh, and flyback was bought new at the local RTV shop :).
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zippotix
Sun Jul 01 2012, 05:34PM
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Ok, I've got it to work last week. At 36V it really kicks a$$, but overheats a bit, I'll just get better heatsink. But I'm still curious about the original question. I tried adding a .68uF cap to the halogen transformer output and it didn't affected the HV output. Maybe a smaller capacity capacitor would do better? What do you guys think?
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