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GeordieBoy
Fri Jun 01 2012, 02:40PM Print
GeordieBoy Registered Member #1232 Joined: Wed Jan 16 2008, 10:53PM
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I don't know if you guys have seen this before, but thought those in the UK might find it interesting:

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It's cool to watch the AC mains frequency varying with supply and demand.

-Richie,

PS. Apparently it uses "reciprocal counting" in order to determine the supply frequency to many decimal places after only a second or two of measurement time.
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Thomas W
Fri Jun 01 2012, 02:55PM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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hmm, ive got a idea, everyone of us turn on our most powerful transformers at the same time and see if we can get it to sway c:

Highest: 50.157!
Lowest: 49.929!
lets have a contest, who sees the highest :3
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Neet Studio
Fri Jun 01 2012, 04:14PM
Neet Studio Registered Member #4037 Joined: Fri Jul 29 2011, 03:13PM
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There was one time when I switched on a terminal in the lab at the University, all the light went out. Funny thing was that shortly after I switched it off the lights went back on. There was no smoke/sparks etc coming from that terminal.

I read the campus newspaper that there was a blackout that day. Not sure if that extra load kicked the entire block off grid because of my unusual "luck" or my timing. ;)
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Steve Conner
Fri Jun 01 2012, 04:27PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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One of the instruments I built at work has a digital PLL that tracks the mains frequency. As a test, I got it to print the value to 3 decimal places, and checked it against that site. It agrees pretty well, except the site lagged my readings by about 5 seconds.
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Ben Solon
Fri Jun 01 2012, 04:42PM
Ben Solon Registered Member #3900 Joined: Thu May 19 2011, 08:28PM
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Tom Williamson wrote ...

hmm, ive got a idea, everyone of us turn on our most powerful transformers at the same time and see if we can get it to sway c:

Too bad I can’t join D: but better idea. Everyone plug in all your power equipment, and turn them on. Then turn on all your lights/appliances. Then everyone shuts down their main breakers. Then on a predefined time, you all flip your breakers back on! Your sure to put the meter to 49 if you have a few people.
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Harry
Fri Jun 01 2012, 10:28PM
Harry Registered Member #4081 Joined: Wed Aug 31 2011, 06:40PM
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Or, just check it at the break of a popular show (footie half time?)
Everyone will put their kettles on for a brew!
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Thomas W
Fri Jun 01 2012, 10:53PM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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bingo, the queens diamond jublee, when does it start being officialy broadcast?
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Bored Chemist
Sat Jun 02 2012, 04:03PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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Tom Williamson wrote ...

bingo, the queens diamond jublee, when does it start being officialy broadcast?
Congratulations! you have just given me a reason to actually give a damn what time the show kicks off.
Incidentally, if you get very bored, you can compare it against this one.
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Thomas W
Sat Jun 02 2012, 05:56PM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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thats interesting... they are both saying completely opposite things
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Avalanche
Sat Jun 02 2012, 09:12PM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
Location: Derby, UK
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I remember visiting Dinorwig in Wales, which is a pumped storage hydroelectric plant designed to meet instant demand, just by opening a big valve.

The example they gave during the presentation was the commercial break of Eastenders I think, on go all the kettles and if the mains frequency drops enough then it rocks the whole mountain.

I've been watching the meter for the last few minutes, over a period of about 5 minutes from 9.55pm onwards it quickly changed from a stable 49.8Hz to 50.1Hz
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