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ZakWolf
Wed Feb 08 2012, 04:53AM Print
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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So i was going to lash this up for a friend and had a couple questions.

-Can i use uf4007's for the multiplier
-What can i use as a replacement for the transistor?
- i want to make it as cheap a possible.

thanks
1328676817 3114 FT0 Stungun
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m4ge123
Wed Feb 08 2012, 05:25AM
m4ge123 Registered Member #4118 Joined: Mon Oct 03 2011, 04:50PM
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You can use uf4007s. They'll be more efficient than 1n4007s. For the transistor I'd use a MOSFET, but add some sort of protection so it doesn't get fried from overvoltage.
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Sulaiman
Wed Feb 08 2012, 05:55AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Without series resistance at the HV output the discharge/spark current may be too high for the diodes.
With series resistance the spark will not be impressive.

This is why stun guns use a pulse transformer output.
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ZakWolf
Wed Feb 08 2012, 06:30AM
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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Im not new , im just not that knowledgeable when it comes to protection circuits and other things.

Isnt the 555 sending a pulsed output to the transformer, any better circuits then using a ne555?

What can i use for a mosfet?

thanks
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Feb 08 2012, 10:26AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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With this circuit, there's absolutely no way you could get 20 kV on the output.. more like 2-4 kV
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Dr. ISOTOP
Wed Feb 08 2012, 01:17PM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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Please for the love of all that is holy use a snubber in that circuit...otherwise the MOSFET may become very sad indeed.
Like so: Link2
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Patrick
Wed Feb 08 2012, 02:59PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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bwang wrote ...

Please for the love of all that is holy use a snubber in that circuit...otherwise the MOSFET may become very sad indeed.
Like so: Link2
thats a really useful PDF! i must read it thouroghly, i do agree with the previous statement that only a few kV will be achievable with that design.

Those audio transformer circuits just arnt all that great for power pulsing. (1k:8)
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ZakWolf
Wed Feb 08 2012, 03:19PM
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will do thanks guys
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Tetris
Wed Feb 08 2012, 04:04PM
Tetris Registered Member #4016 Joined: Thu Jul 21 2011, 01:52AM
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I've built something similar. I made a simple 555 driver, one that would activate a speaker, attached it to a pot for one of the resistors, and crazily lowered the values of the pin 3 resistor and the pin 7-8 resistor. Instead of attaching the output to a speaker, I attached it to a small transformer with calculated increase of 30 times on the secondary. I was able to get 1.5V on the primary from 9V, and an output of around 23-60V AC at a pretty high frequency on the other. IDK if my meter read right, but it said 38kHz or something. The driver is pretty similar to your low voltage side of your driver.
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Platinum
Wed Feb 08 2012, 07:12PM
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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I was thinking of making a very small stungun, well if you can call it a stun gun, by making a very small ZVS circuit, mini-ZVS ^^
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