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I had a shock of a flyback :|

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Killa-X
Mon Jan 23 2012, 02:59AM
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Alex1M6 wrote ...

Tom Williamson wrote ...

im getting worried if it was a good idea to sell you this, concidering the amount of shocks youve said you had :/

I feel a lawsuit coming on from his parents!

Though technically, its ot Tom's responsibility =) Who bought it should be the one. Though, these days, people fight for the stupidest reasons... *stares at mc donalds* yeah..

Not sure of your past experience, but may I recommend starting low and working up so shocks are minorly painless and not so risky, so you learn what to look out for, and what to/not to touch :)
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Steve Conner
Mon Jan 23 2012, 07:29AM
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Well, if you don't have respect for high voltage, it has a way of teaching you respect! :)

Just be grateful it was a relatively low powered device and not something like a MOT or pole pig. I guess theoretically a flyback could kill you too, but it would have to be a really unlucky day.

The sensible thing is to have the ground wire attached to your chicken stick, not the high voltage one.
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Alex M
Mon Jan 23 2012, 07:56AM
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Well hopefully it will be a lesson to respect electricity.

You don't want to end up like this guy do you? skip to 0:24

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Thomas W
Mon Jan 23 2012, 10:30AM
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well, as far as im concerned i designed it for low voltage transformers like 5+5 to 2 for high current ;D
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Platinum
Mon Jan 23 2012, 10:47AM
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Alex1M6 wrote ...

Tom Williamson wrote ...

im getting worried if it was a good idea to sell you this, concidering the amount of shocks youve said you had :/

I feel a lawsuit coming on from his parents!

Umm no, I wouldn't do that. He said in his PM you take responsibility, so I do. With great arc, comes great responsibility...
When the I did have a shock, I think I had 2+2 primary, and there was alot of power because the flyback was arcing underneath, and it has fissures on the sides. I've been messing with HV for about 2 years, but I've only had two bad shocks, all within a few weeks, one was a flyback on 65w, and now with the flyback on about 300w+.

Anyway it was my own fault that I had a shock, but anyway, I have to get a new bench as the edges are metal, and on ground, anyway I'm using a pretty big chicken stick now, one off really, I felt ok after about an hour. I really have to get a new table...

Anyway even after I got a shock, 10minutes later I had the Jacobs ladder going ^^

I don't consider myself lucky as people have survived polepigs, and one of my mothers friends climbed up a pylon and fell nearly from the top, and he was shocked, my mother told me his name and my mother never realised but his name is (he's alive) Jason Watt.
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Patrick
Mon Jan 23 2012, 11:15AM
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Alex1M6 wrote ...

Well hopefully it will be a lesson to respect electricity.

You don't want to end up like this guy do you? skip to 0:24


he got hit twice too!
His body/clothing caught fire! thats an ugly way to die.
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Killa-X
Mon Jan 23 2012, 04:09PM
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Id considered yourself lucky. Many people die on linemen work on the 7.2KV lines and thats the low side of pole pigs. With a powerful zvs, it can easily kill you..not saying yours will, but when i did 12" 1KW arcs from mine, yeah..garenteed..

I do HV on a glass desk. When i do it on metal, i use 1/4" acrylic and glass pole insulators. Standard 120 though, i dont use anything.

I commonly have the HV on the stick, not the ground, heh...Never had issues, then again, i use clean pvc with 3ft distance.
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Goodchild
Mon Jan 23 2012, 05:33PM
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hey would you look at that... I'm still running and kicking... go figure :P
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Killa-X
Mon Jan 23 2012, 07:26PM
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Goodchild. Different story in your case. Quiet obvious your not going to die touching that...your QCW isnt puting out 1cm thick (to the eye) plasma filled arcs that make 1/4" bolts glow :P
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Goodchild
Mon Jan 23 2012, 11:02PM
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Killa-X wrote ...

Goodchild. Different story in your case. Quiet obvious your not going to die touching that...your QCW isnt puting out 1cm thick (to the eye) plasma filled arcs that make 1/4" bolts glow :P


Um you sure about that? I've melted through 1/4 steel bolts that I've used for breakoupoints with my QCW before. Tungsten seem to be the only think that the QCW won't melt.

The QCW is more power than a flyback, a LOT more. Granted it is slightly higher voltage generally <50Kv in most cases, it still can have some scary current, that's why the sparks are a thick white color. :P
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