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Trouble with 2n3055 flyback circuit.

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Harry
Fri Dec 23 2011, 09:09PM Print
Harry Registered Member #4081 Joined: Wed Aug 31 2011, 06:40PM
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I've been trying to make a 2no3055 circuit (as on the 4HvWiki) but with the NPN transistors from CRT televisions. But as soon as I switch on the power supply, the transistor instantly blows, leaving a hole in the casing between pin 1 and 2. These transistors are rated for 15A so I don't see why this is happening. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks, Harry.
http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/B/U/H/5/BUH517.shtml Is one that I used, the others are very similar.
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Patrick
Fri Dec 23 2011, 09:55PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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In the mid 90's i used to have these problems, i think your overvoltaging them from the cemf. my iggies used to do this all the time.
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Newton Brawn
Sat Dec 24 2011, 02:45AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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HArry:

When a new circuit is beguining to be tested we shall be careful...
Sometimes the bias is not corect, sometimes we have made a wrong connection, etc etc

To avoid burn the circuit, connect a auto bulb 12V 20V between the power supply + and the circuit + terminal.

Regards
Newton
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Harry
Sat Dec 24 2011, 12:05PM
Harry Registered Member #4081 Joined: Wed Aug 31 2011, 06:40PM
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Good idea, I dont have a 12V bulb, but can I use a few power resistors (around 6 - 10 ohms 7W) in parallel?
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Steve Conner
Sat Dec 24 2011, 01:40PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Yes. Resistor, light bulb, whatever, the idea is to limit the current and keep your circuit intact long enough to scope it and figure out the problem.

Are you sure you got the transistor pinout right? :(

Also, those transistors are designed to work with one of the existing windings on the flyback, and a 50-150V supply, depending on the screen size. They probably won't perform well with a 12V supply and the traditional hand-made winding that has very few turns.
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Harry
Sat Dec 24 2011, 01:45PM
Harry Registered Member #4081 Joined: Wed Aug 31 2011, 06:40PM
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Not too sure, I assumed the transistors go Base, Collector, Emitter, but I didn't check on the datasheets, so I could well be wrong. I only have one more transistor so I'll make sure to check this time.
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Fulmen
Sat Dec 24 2011, 02:27PM
Fulmen Registered Member #3883 Joined: Fri May 13 2011, 06:30PM
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Harry wrote ...

I assumed the transistors go Base, Collector, Emitter, but I didn't check on the datasheets
Bingo. You can't assume anything, check the sheet and test for good measure.
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Harry
Sat Dec 24 2011, 03:58PM
Harry Registered Member #4081 Joined: Wed Aug 31 2011, 06:40PM
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So I would be better off buying a 2N3055? Also I'm using a 33 Ohm resistor instead of the 27 Ohm on the diagram, will it make a significant difference?
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Antonio
Sat Dec 24 2011, 10:14PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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The high-voltage transistors usually found in TVs ou CRT monitors have very low HFE (current gain), and may not oscillate in that usual 2N3055 circuit. The resistor values must be changed. That simple oscillator found everywhere in the Internet is very far from being safe. Even with the quite robust 3055 the probability of a disaster is very high.
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Harry
Sat Dec 24 2011, 11:07PM
Harry Registered Member #4081 Joined: Wed Aug 31 2011, 06:40PM
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Well the point of this project was to make a high voltage supply to learn the dangers of HV. I had an MOT but rewound it because it was too dangerous. So longetivity is not really an issue, it needs to work for around one hour I guess, but not constantly (i.e. left on for one hour. Maybe enough time to make a jacobs ladder). Then I was thinking of building Plasmanas' TL494 plasma speaker.
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