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Forty

Mon Dec 05 2011, 05:15PM

Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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I agree with DaJJHman. I took most of my upper level physics and math courses in my first 2 years and my GPA has suffered ever since because you're not really expected to ever get A's in those courses. Now I've been stuck doing all my stupid General Education courses and my advanced physics skills have gotten rusty (not a good prep for grad school.) If you have already decided on your major, save some of it for your later undergrad years instead of jumping right into it. Also, don't break your back and miss a semester in the middle like I did, that screws you over as well.
If you didn't have to work hard for those scores, then congratulations, you should have no problem with college.
If you worked your ass off for those scores, then congratulations, you're a hard worker and it's only going to get harder lol.
I never took the ACT. Is it any better of a test than the SAT? I only beat you on one thing: got a 770 math. damn nonlinear grading scale.
Good Luck!

magnet18

Tue Dec 06 2011, 01:55AM

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Thanks to everyone, to AndrewM, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come across as proud or bragging, I was just wondering what you guys thought of the scores (other than the chemistry ones), and what you thought of my college choices.
I already know the tricks about which classes to take and which to test out of, my dad made that mistake, so I don't have to :)

@forty, the ACT is a lot easier if you're technical minded

@carbon-rod, don't worry, I'll pass just fine.

I know the rules change

worrying about my scores seems dumb now since I didn't really try that hard for any of them (except the AP chem one, that was a b*tch)

Thank you very much everyone for the advice

Adam Munich

Tue Dec 06 2011, 02:02PM

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You dun outsmarted me meester!

magnet18

Tue Dec 06 2011, 03:25PM

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Grenadier wrote ...

You dun outsmarted me meester!

Aye, theres mutliple kinds o dem smarts

A lot of people are very smart in areas that test scores can't reflect, I think that test scores are pretty terrible actually, since I know I'm very good at math. It's all about knowing what the question wants.

Anyway, I couldn't code my way out of a paper bag :P

Patrick

Wed Dec 07 2011, 05:50AM

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Location: Chico, CA. USA
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Dont presume success in education will be proportional to success or competence in a real career.

There are more and more educated idots in the world, and this trend will increase with the maturity of any population as it evolves toward a more stable state. IE we all know of those PhD's who are from Harvard/Yale and has such and such a degree/accredation and so on, yet is incompitant and/or as dumb as a box of rocks, or perhaps worse... some idiot in a management position of a profession/trade where lower level people can get hurt or killed from bad decision making.

The presence or lack of education does not itself equate to a persons usefulness or value to society.

College is very different than high school. Early and late teen life will be different than the same idividuals life at 24-29 yo. Youll have lived more, seen more and value things differently, and we see crap that is so bizarre, we ask ourselves, " really!?, we humans are going to let that happen/be like this? really? maybe we should think or try something else?"

I was a true believer in education, propaganda and the whole thing when i was younger, (15-21) but after 21 i started to see that the educational system in the US from K-12 is not meant to put out competent students for trade schools or college to begin. and that once in college (ive been on 3 campuses over 11 years.) i saw financial prefference given to buying 500k$ solar panels in the parking lot, while laying off 6 professors during the same semesters. these and other reasons and examples, have proven to my own satisfaction that college isnt meant to convey knowledge/skill/reason or how to gain profesional skills . at least in America, speciffically in California, our educational system is meant to serve other political, social, and policy purposes far beyond what is proper or reasonable for a institution of education. (I dont mean the last part to be political, ive seen R's and D's who are idiots, and doing wrong, However there tend to be more left-types on CA campuses. So your nation or campus may vary)

Ill give you some examples of historic importance, engineering, psychology, human factors and otherwise, which i have studied in detail. (Highly educated people can cause, justify or be fooled into disastarous situations, without being evil like Darth Vader or Stalin/Hitler and dont even have a cape.) PS. Evil people do exist, and those people are jerks.

Union Carbide disaster, Bhopal India. (100k plus people injured and killed)
Titanic.
Jonestown, and similar tragic cult/organzitional disasters.
STS Challenger, Columbia (near exact duplicates, which led to 14 deaths.)
ENRON (CA energy crisis), World Com, of the 2000's (smartest-most educated people ever--could do no wrong, later recieved prison time)
Love canal, envirometal disaster.
MTBE in CA gasoline, required cleaning the air, by poisoning the drinking water.
BP/horizon oil platform.
3 mile island
Chernobyl
Fukushima
American and Russian above ground nuclear testing (50's - 70's)
Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Sally Mae, and banking bailouts. (economic fraud commited by government and private sector idiots, against the american people.)
Bernie Madoff scam and MF Global theft.
Unlawful Japanese American internment by US president FDR, 1940's.
Nazist/Communist systematic suppression of humanity and erradiacation of unwanted sections of humanity.

Given our human tendencies to greatly ignore real threats, and greatly hype then act hysterically against non-exist threats, ill advise you in this way:

Use your brain! not someone elses. regardless of unsupported non-factual assurances that: "everything is fine, you worry to much.... our upper level people have all that figured out."

Intelligence, reason, skill, perception/perspective, good leadership in the difficult times, are largly independent of and have no relation to educational level completed.

the ability to remain faithful to professional ethics, and the ability resist doing harm to humanity merely because a government or corporate authority figure insists. (see the Millgram experiment).

Remember while in college to hear everything, yet trust nothing. Especially that with which you dont agree or havent considered before. You dont have to believe it, just hear what others say and consider it on merit, through reason. (and when I say trust nothing, I mean your own preconcieved notions, too.)

The ideal purpose of college in terms of its historic value to humanity is... we go there to be taught how to think, by means of reason and relations, we do not go there to be told what to think.

Finnally, you wont know everything, but dont let that be the reason you assume someone who knows more is right. They could be wrong, you could be right , or you could both be wrong. The answer to the question is not the goal, the ability to understand the process and events that lead you to solve the problem is the goal. For that reason the Solution is not neccsarily the answer. The exact answer, if it exists, may have less value then the solution or no value at all.

College has value, but you have to find it, dont leave this task to someone else. make sure before you leave with or without a degree, that you are in possesion of the knowledge that will make you better off in life than if you had not attended at all. Else your burning money, wasting years of your life, in a glorified day-care center for young adults.

most of what i have said here is unique to California specifically, or the US in general, as i have studied and asessed other educational systems (both from K-12 and then college), and i have come to the conclusion there are nations which often have superior to our american intituitions, in so far as we look at competent children leaving one grade fully qualified for the next. (i dont know what else is a fair test) In america often the K-12 system graduate kids with passable or high scores who then start at college well below the minimums of math, english and science expected by a college bound student. So, what you said about Chemistry, i am suspicious of. Im thinking it matters more what your chosen major is, when deciding wether your off the hook for that requirment.

Sorry for the ramblings, but i have strong feelings.

I wish i had spell and grammer check, eh im sick, kinda blurry and fuzzy in the head.... ill correct my typing errors in the morning to avoid the obvious conflict between not typing wright and yet still criticsing education (which im sure others will point out). eh bed time from the cough-med bottle approaches.

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