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LuceÅ¡

Fri Dec 02 2011, 09:55PM

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Alot of they are passing scare me, I honestly don't know what to say the united states is sadly turning communist

I SEE A REVOLUTION IN THE NEAR FUTURE!

WaveRider

Fri Dec 02 2011, 10:04PM

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I am glad that this discussion took place, despite the fact that the thread will likely be locked. Unfortunately, Mr jpsmith123's ideas seem to be appearing more frequently in the general public as well as even amongst so-called "mainstream" politicians who profess Millenarian religious tendencies and rigid far right ideologies. In these days of economic instability, it is important to call the bluff of these nutters and force them to show their true colors, so we all know what we're dealing with and not let them exploit the chaos of the times. This type of ignorance and wilful misrepresentation of history can be very damaging when it is left unchallenged!
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jpsmith123

Fri Dec 02 2011, 10:07PM

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Well, all I'm hearing are bare assertions made by conspiracy theorists, quoted by jpsmith123 who asks us to believe them because someone posted them on the Internet.

Unlike your bare assertions, I've backed up everything I've said. Why, I even linked to a video where you can see with your own two eyes what is obviously the result of cutter charges, demolishing the North tower of the WTC complex. If that's not enough evidence for you, then please kindly give some examples of the types of evidence you would accept.

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Please folks, open minded but not so open your brain falls out. And not so closed that you accidentally squish it, either. This thread is likely to get locked soon, as the masonic lizard elite strike another nail in the coffin of truth.

Well if you don't even believe what you see with your own two eyes, I guess nobody shoud be surprised that you refuse to accept lesser evidence. I'm just wondering how you made it through engineering school if you absolutely cannot trust what your own eyes are showing you.

Steve Conner

Fri Dec 02 2011, 10:11PM

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If the USA is turning Communist, what does that make China?! Apart from freakin' rich.

YouTube and Facebook don't work in China, and Google voluntarily censors its search results.

You could argue that those three (two since Google bought YT) are part of a conspiracy to turn the Internet into a seething mass of ads. Sometimes it seems like the ads are the real content, and all the videos, tweets and blog posts we put in are just filler. Same as McDonalds exists to make money, and the food is incidental.
Maybe one day I'll assert my human right to not wade through all that crap, same as I asserted my right to stop watching TV. Or maybe I'll demand sources for the information in that "Good to know" panel on the cereal packet.

Ash Small

Fri Dec 02 2011, 10:14PM

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It's bankers (ie money lenders) who are resposible for the 'disappearing money' that led to the current world economic 'situation', and governments are clamping down on our rights due to a 'percieved' terrorism threat, but to bring 'religion' into the debate in any form is bound to lead to the thread ultimately being locked.

Can we keep this thread on topic, without blaming everything on one religion or another?

Scott Fusare

Fri Dec 02 2011, 10:31PM

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Arguing with a "true believer" is a fool's errand. The more logic that is brought to bear, the more reinforced the belief set becomes. It can only be penetrated from within unfortunately...

In addition to Hoffer's tome, "When Prophecy Fails" by Festinger is another great classic book on this phenomenon.

Chip Fixes

Fri Dec 02 2011, 10:39PM

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Yeah, like highvoltagechick stated earlier, I'm more concerned with the internet being censored than by anything else... Anyway, our government is made up by humans so of course there will be mistakes. But they're doing a much better job than I could ever do. I guess if you disagree, feel free to try and make a difference by running for office, etc.

EDIT: All the complaining is getting really old

jpsmith123

Fri Dec 02 2011, 10:46PM

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Well I'm still waiting for you statist automatons and collective thinkers to bring some "logic" to bear on some of the items I linked to. Instead all I'm hearing is more inane BS. Instead of calling me names, let's hear your compelling counter-explanation for the phenomena we see in Chandler's video.

Scott Fusare wrote ...

Arguing with a "true believer" is a fool's errand. The more logic that is brought to bear, the more reinforced the belief set becomes. It can only be penetrated from within unfortunately...

In addition to Hoffer's tome, "When Prophecy Fails" by Festinger is another great classic book on this phenomenon.

Chip Fixes

Fri Dec 02 2011, 11:00PM

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jpsmith123 wrote ...

Well I'm still waiting for you statist automatons and collective thinkers to bring some "logic" to bear on some of the items I linked to. Instead all I'm hearing is more inane BS. Instead of calling me names, let's hear your compelling counter-explanation for the phenomena we see in Chandler's video.

Does it really matter? I mean come on. You can't change the past, and complaining on a forum about the current state of affairs isn't going to solve anything.

jpsmith123

Fri Dec 02 2011, 11:17PM

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America wasn't destroyed by "mistakes", it was destroyed because some people CONSPIRED to subvert our whole political process and worked hard at it for decades. Having essentially succeeded, they then staged a false-flag terror attack in order to overthrow the rule of law, consolidate power in the executive branch, fool the peasantry, and attempt to use U.S. military, economic and political power to pound the independent world into submission.

Given this situation, how does an honest person get himself elected to high political office when the whole political process has become corrupted, fully subverted by an organization that disproportionately controls money and mass media?

Camp Badger wrote ...

Yeah, like highvoltagechick stated earlier, I'm more concerned with the internet being censored than by anything else... Anyway, our government is made up by humans so of course there will be mistakes. But they're doing a much better job than I could ever do. I guess if you disagree, feel free to try and make a difference by running for office, etc.

EDIT: All the complaining is getting really old

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Does it really matter? I mean come on. You can't change the past, and complaining on a forum about the current state of affairs isn't going to solve anything.

I feel I have a moral and a civic duty to spread the truth. Maybe you personally despise the truth, and hate my guts for it, but that doesn't mean everyone else does. Who knows, someone reading this thread might be encouraged to do their own research, might come to the same conclusion, and escape from the USSA before the missiles fly.

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