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Chip Fixes
Wed Nov 30 2011, 11:19PM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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Mads Barnkob wrote ...

All you need is perspective. Link2

I met this man at an airport last year, an inspiration to all
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WaveRider
Fri Dec 02 2011, 12:36PM
WaveRider Registered Member #29 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 09:00AM
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Two main things get me out of bed every day:

1) My wife of 13 years....best thing that ever happened to me!

2) My work...it is a great thing to do something that you like, feel like you can contribute something to the world around you...and get paid for it too!

***
The point is, try to cultivate relationships with others and work at doing something that you like. If you make a good salary, great! If it is an unpaid hobby, great...the job is just something you do for a crust (and to support the hobby). As mentioned before: try to learn something new every day... And, "failure" is only failure when you quit...otherwise it's only a temporary setback that is an important part of learning new things!
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Dr. Who
Sat Dec 03 2011, 11:34PM
Dr. Who Registered Member #326 Joined: Sat Mar 18 2006, 01:12PM
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One of the keys to success in life is recognising that every problem or failure is a valuable learning experience. Without judging or blaming yourself look back over your CMS project and ask yourself what you have learned from it, and what you could have done differently.
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Dr. Slack
Sun Dec 04 2011, 08:47PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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A good thing to get down straight before you try to figure out the point of life is to ask yourself what about a job well-done satisfies you ...

Do you need the respect (addulation/applause/promotion) of others?
or are you self-affirming, you know when you've done a good job, to hell with what others say.

... because you might approach a task with one or another mindset, if you've figured this out up front.

Sometimes it's not easy to make the distinction between the two, and, OMG, which is better, what *should* the answer be?

Sometimes, if you think hard enough about this question, it dances and fades like the morning mist to be replaced with tougher ones; it's a sort of gateway question.

Enjoy the journey.
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Steve Conner
Sun Dec 04 2011, 09:58PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Yes, it amounts to asking yourself whether you're an extrovert or an introvert. Generalizing grossly, extroverts think the point of life is to be popular, and their idea of hell is being alone. Introverts think the point of life is to understand things, and their idea of hell is disorder.

Unsurprisingly introverts are attracted to the sciences, because they offer an absolute world view where things are fundamentally understandable, and it is possible to be objectively "right". Unfortunately the process by which important decisions are taken is more like a popularity contest between extroverted CEOs and politicians.

I think either personality type can benefit from at least pondering what life would be like if they were the opposite one. If nothing else, it might help a scientist figure out what ridiculous thing his boss is going to do next.
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Adam Munich
Mon Dec 05 2011, 12:41AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Welp, the CMS in my opinion was a foolish waste of time that could have been better used for something fun, rather than screwing around in notepad++ for a total of maybe 700 man hours. Learned skills I never plan on using again though :p


Mads Barnkob wrote ...

All you need is perspective. Link2

It sounds to me like you have been trying all along to make money, a living or career on inventing something, do it for the fun instead, because you will not get anywhere doing it half hearted next to school or another job. To succeed becoming selfemployed we are talking about 70+ hours a week for the first couple of years.

Make up with yourself if you want to work a lot and be happy with that, or work a little and be happy in your free time. I have tried both and will say that in the end I will choose time with my family and friends above making money.

LIFE LESSON LEARNED: If something works, you better damn well stick to it and not spend 5 months coding an open CMS.

I hate to say it, but I told you so, but look on it from the bright side, you learned this at a younger age than I did ;)


I've been thinking a lot lately, reevaluating my life, and it looks like mads was correct all along. Putting a huge amount of work into something that has a high chance of failure is foolish, and you end up depressed, lonely, and if your plans involved html; ADD.

So in my eyes I see my current situation as:

* Yes you wasted time attempting to make neat websites.
* Yes you learned skills, pointless ones you'll never use.
* Yes you missed out on what could have been fun with friends and family.
* Yes you wasted 5 months that could have been used to make a neat tesla coil.
* Yes, school was important and you fucked yourself over by not realizing that, but while you won't get any scholarships now you can still get loans...
* Yes there is nothing you can do about it now, so get your ass in gear and have some fun and enjoy life.


In the course of the past year, I've learned that well, money isn't everything. Friends and family are.




[gren now needs to choose a career!]
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Forty
Mon Dec 05 2011, 05:21PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
Location: Erie, PA
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Experimental Physicist: one that screws around with stuff that's cool.
Chemist: "drugs or explosives?"
Engineer: one that has a job.
and as we say at my school, if you fail all of that, you can always be a business major.
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Finn Hammer
Mon Dec 05 2011, 07:18PM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
Location: Skørping, Denmark
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Dr. Spark wrote ...


Start helping others in need, help your local church as there is a lot of people out there that need help! The more you give to others, the more fulfilled you will be when you look back on your life indeed!

Rgs,
Dr. Spark


The best answer comes (a bit surprisingly, unless you know him) from our Arizonean Gunslinger: Dr. Spark!

Everybody wants to be loved, everybody craves happiness, so the right to persuit happiness is granted in the constitution.
It is not rocket science, that your best chance of being loved, and getting happy is by performing acts of loving kindness, this, by chance - or design, if you like - is also the only thing you will never grow tired of.

Having the ability to invent myself, I can assure you this: Although the split second when the invention arrives is a highly thrilling one: Unless a great deal of restraint is exercised, regarding the expectation of possible future financial benefit from it, this ability is a double edged sword, the mother of both blessing or curse.

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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Dr. Drone
Mon Dec 05 2011, 09:31PM
Dr. Drone Registered Member #290 Joined: Mon Mar 06 2006, 08:24PM
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shades
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Conundrum
Tue Dec 06 2011, 08:33PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hmm..

I am still not using my full potential, however my skills are still developing. Hopefully when this economy improves then some nice company might take me on as an engineer, here's hoping.

-A
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