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Avalanche
Sat Nov 19 2011, 11:59AM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
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sounds interesting, so delta modulation being like bang-bang control with a fast feedback loop on your reference waveform? I always wondered if my LUT should be controlling the current or voltage waveform, but as half wave rectified mains produces sword like sparks and is a voltage source, I decided to just make the voltage follow the LUT (and have no feedback loop at all). Is the feedback in your system for voltage or current control?
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Nov 19 2011, 12:06PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I think that current control is of little use, as the primary circuit is close to a constant current sink, the regulation would be problematic and probably of no real significance. If you want to control output power, controlling the bridge voltage comes much closer than controlling the current.
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Steve Conner
Sat Nov 19 2011, 12:52PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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The instantaneous output power from the bridge is equal to voltage * current. So controlling either of them should do.

At least I hope so, as I've just finished wiring up the current control loop! smile

I can always modify it so that instead of looking at the primary current, it looks at the synchronised interrupter signal through an integrator.

Delta modulation, sigma delta and so on, are all just fancy names for on-off control, with the on and off times synchronised to a clock.
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Avalanche
Sat Nov 19 2011, 06:42PM
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so to see if i'm understanding this correctly, are we talking about modulating the H bridge's DC bus voltage, or the high frequency gate drive? ..or both in one thread? cheesey

After a quick read up on delta sigma, I can see how that modulation could be applied directly to the TC's gate drive, with the reference clock being syncronised to the TC's resonant frequency to maintain soft switching (and resonance!) although weak primary/secondary coupling would be necessary...

I originally mentioned current vs. voltage feedback because from my understanding, the TC is a non-linear load on the H bridge, so current wouldn't be proportional to spark size.

Assuming spark 'mass' or size is proportional to instantaneous power into the H bridge, wouldn't the best audio performance be obtained by multiplying the bridge voltage by input current and comparing that to the reference (audio input)?

I must start playing around again, it has been ages!

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