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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)

Tue Dec 31 2013, 07:24AM

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Looks like I'll be using up my jar of ACS grade KI crystals.
I really had hoped that this was wrapped up, but since the radiation is too lethal to get near the site for cleanup, it's never going to be situated.
I guess at best, they will have to mound up the site with Boron and cap it with a concrete dome, and just let the innards fizzle for the next 5 million years.

Shrad

Tue Dec 31 2013, 09:50AM

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I'm telling myself approximately one to two times a month that I should buy iode pills and fallout gear... this UK reactor is even more frightening and I might grab stuff sooner...

Ash Small

Tue Dec 31 2013, 07:00PM

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Barring a thermo-nuclear explosion from the MOX and tritium, it's only a matter of time until the meltdown under #4, and possibly others, reach the water table and contaminate the whole of Japan's drinking water, but then I pointed this out a few hours after the tsunami, when the first evidence of Caesium 137 was recorded.

Proud Mary

Tue Dec 31 2013, 08:11PM

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Perhaps the Fukushima disaster will simply stretch out into an indefinitely postponed future. At Chernobyl, which burnt up in 1986, the construction of a new 'safe containment' scheduled to be completed in 2005 was postponed until 2010. In 2010 it was postponed until 2013, and now as 2013 comes to an end, we see it once again moved out of reach to 2016.

After a similar pattern of postponements at Windscale, we now learn that "Final decommissioning of Pile One is set for 2037" - 80 years after the disaster - "under UKAEA's latest accelerated decommissioning plans, but there are many factors that could delay that..."

See how 80 years is considered "accelerated decommissioning" though there remain "many factors that could delay [even] that" - a glint of truth almost lost amongst all the upbeat industry and government spin.

Why would the time scale at Fukushima be any different?

A century, two centuries, who can say?

Ash Small

Sun Jan 05 2014, 01:15PM

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Apparently Obama ordered 14 million doses of potassium iodide on 6th December, and there were two underground explosions at Fukushima on 31st December, the bigger of the two was apparently 0.5 kilotons. Apparently Obama has ordered news agencies NOT TO REPORT IT, but the Russians are reporting it. Does anyone else have any info on this?

Proud Mary

Sun Jan 05 2014, 02:37PM

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Unexplained steam rising from Reactor 3 at Fukushima

Conundrum

Sun Jan 05 2014, 02:42PM

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The "doomsday scenario" of a large steam explosion toppling the spent fuel pool(s) is becoming more and more likely every day, once that happens its Goodnight Japan for sure (and probably most of America)

-A

Proud Mary

Sun Jan 05 2014, 02:44PM

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More on the steam apparently coming from Reactor 3:

Ash Small

Sun Jan 05 2014, 03:06PM

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Proud Mary wrote ...

More on the steam apparently coming from Reactor 3:

That is a lot of steam and begs the question 'Where is it coming from?'.

Without wishing to 'scare-monger', is this not what would be expected if a 'melt-down' has reached, for example, the 'water-table'?

Proud Mary

Sun Jan 05 2014, 03:46PM

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Ash Small wrote ...

Proud Mary wrote ...

More on the steam apparently coming from Reactor 3:

It's winter in Japan now, so it's possible that the ambient air temperature is now cooling escaping water vapour more quickly, making an existing plume of steam visible.

I have no idea what this escape of water vapour might mean. I suppose it could be anything from rain water collected in cavities formed by the wreckage boiling up, to an escape of coolants. It would be very easy to fly a small drone into the steam plume to take samples, and it would be odd if this had not already been done, it seems so obvious.

Perhaps it will blow up, or perhaps it will just continue as it is, an open sore leaking virulent poison into the biosphere for decades to come.

All we can say for certain is that there has been a lot of 'news management' around this disaster, especially in Britain, where the government is promoting the construction of new reactors by the private sector, and doesn't want unpleasant truths about the Sellafield-Fukushima MOX collaboration to put off investors.

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