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Patrick

Sat Feb 08 2014, 07:01PM

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Proud Mary wrote ...

Scientists claim algae will get rid of radioactivity in Fukushima

I can get him several 30cc aqueous samples per flight, as often as he wants. from this or that dirty puddle.

I dont want to profiteer, but i sure as shit am not doing it for free...

possible fukushima MAV flights...

The red circle is 1,000 ft in diameter, ive made these flights already around the campus and house. 500 feet out and 500 feet back in up to 9+ minutes for flight time.

the blue circle shows a 2k foot diameter circle, im sure i could build a specialized drone to easily, reliably and cheaply do this.

the green line, and diiachi fence line spans about 13k feet approximated by the green vertical line, though the fence winds around abit.

im thinking:
-First, no human hands on once deployed, wireless charging is a requirement.
-Second, a small mars-rover-like-opertunity to roll near then roll back so the machine isnt flying so far.
-Third, a 75 to 100 flight lifetime before grave yard. each flight lasting 6-12 minutes.

in fact, hopefully, the device pair would fly or drive itself to the graveyard as it nears end of life.

Proud Mary

Sun Feb 09 2014, 08:39PM

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Patrick wrote ...

im thinking:
-First, no human hands on once deployed, wireless charging is a requirement.
-Second, a small mars-rover-like-opertunity to roll near then roll back so the machine isnt flying so far.
-Third, a 75 to 100 flight lifetime before grave yard. each flight lasting 6-12 minutes.

in fact, hopefully, the device pair would fly or drive itself to the graveyard as it nears end of life.

I guess a safety assessment would have to be made of the device before it could be deployed, with a strong emphasis on worst-case scenarios.

Patrick

Mon Feb 10 2014, 07:02AM

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Proud Mary wrote ...

I guess a safety assessment would have to be made of the device before it could be deployed, with a strong emphasis on worst-case scenarios.

fair enough, but as long as it doesnt make human safety worse, the devices loss would be the worst case, right?

There would have to be kill capabilities, plus active and passive safety features, to make sure it doesnt make a low level pass over Tokyo, while shedding strontium and iodine...

Proud Mary

Mon Feb 10 2014, 08:01AM

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Patrick wrote ...

Proud Mary wrote ...

I guess a safety assessment would have to be made of the device before it could be deployed, with a strong emphasis on worst-case scenarios.

Here's a few ideas:

Collision risks in no particular order: people, animals, birds, power lines, antennas, motor vehicles, aircraft, boats, storage tanks, pipelines.

Aerosolisation of hazardous particulates and fluids by rotor wash at inspection locations.

Total loss at unknown unsecured location presenting a radiation risk to any who find the wreckage. See: The GoiÃ¢nia accident

for an idea of worst outcomes.

Telemetry-related risks: radio interference with other services, or interference with UAV command and control signals by other services.

Electronic capture of the device by terrorists. Interception of video/data downlink by terrorists, foreign state actors, nuclear industry rivals, journalists.

I would guess that some measurements and observations around the reactors would have a national security classification that might have to be addressed in some way.

Operator-related hazards: inadequate training, poor judgment, psychopathology including drink/drugs, prejudiced security clearance etc.

Some or all of these factors are likely to have an impact on insurance assessments and costs. There can be few commercial applications without an insurance requirement. Specialist Insurance Cover for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs)

Get together some prepared answers to worst case objections which will surely be raised: what happens if this flying thing gets a big dollop of radioactive goop stuck on it and then goes out of control and flies through the window of an infants school? How quickly could you secure a contaminated crash site, and whose responsibility and at whose cost would that be?

Perhaps make your pitch to an existing clean-up contractor, who would already know all the protocols and red tape needed to bring you onboard and find stuff for your robots to do. Make a classy marketing video and be prepared to do some tough demonstrations.

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Proud Mary

Mon Feb 10 2014, 09:45AM

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Patrick

Mon Feb 10 2014, 05:17PM

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your right, the technical challenges sound simple compared to the possible cultural / social flat tires. this alone makes me not want to do it...

Proud Mary

Mon Feb 10 2014, 07:03PM

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Patrick wrote ...

your right, the technical challenges sound simple compared to the possible cultural / social flat tires. this alone makes me not want to do it...

How about U.S. Customs and Border Protection, or Department of Homeland Security? They may have R&D offices where you could perhaps get a grant for further technical development. You do have something good to show them in which you could reasonably expect some interest if you could find the right people.

Here's a free idea for you. The scenes of crimes photocopter. The photocopter can fly into a crime scene, and photograph everything without introducing any DNA contamination or interfering with physical evidence on the floor, i.e. making footprints in the blood etc. Maybe it could do a 3-D laser scan of the whole place while it was in there, so the crime scene could be reconstructed on a computer before any human investigator ever went in there to start degrading the evidence. I could see a demand for this in homicides, where conservation of crime scenes in a virgin state is often central to successful prosecution.

It could also do imaging by forensic lights, which can be an important resource in the identification and collection of physical evidence.

Proud Mary

Tue Feb 11 2014, 10:19AM

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Shrad

Tue Feb 11 2014, 10:49AM

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and it would spread any hair or skin particules out of their original place ^^

Proud Mary

Tue Feb 11 2014, 11:48AM

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Shrad wrote ...

and it would spread any hair or skin particules out of their original place ^^

Yes, it might do that.

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