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Marko
Wed Nov 16 2011, 01:40PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Hi grenadier,

Some 50 - 100 of these should make a great QCW tank cap, just leave some to other people too!

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Marko
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Adam Munich
Wed Nov 16 2011, 02:28PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Good find! I hope they don't explode though, from what I've heard those fancy CDE caps are the only ones good for DRSSTC work...
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Mads Barnkob
Wed Nov 16 2011, 03:37PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Grenadier wrote ...

Good find! I hope they don't explode though, from what I've heard those fancy CDE caps are the only ones good for DRSSTC work...

Not quite right :)

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Dr. ISOTOP
Wed Nov 16 2011, 03:40PM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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QCW's have teeny tank caps, on the order of 20-ish nF.
What you really want in that application is a mica transmitting cap.
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Marko
Wed Nov 16 2011, 04:23PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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These caps are MMKP and might be more prone to failing at the ends than FKP caps. Still, I believe they'll work for relatively low currents of the QCW :)

Marko
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Adam Munich
Wed Nov 16 2011, 04:59PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Well I was first going to get this thing working as a regular DRSSTC, then figure out how to make it QCW. Kinda hoping that I'd be able to witch between the two, so yeah I'd need to find some beefy caps for the tank.
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teravolt
Thu Nov 17 2011, 04:52AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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Hi Grenadier I am workinig on gatering up the parts for QCW and I am working on the converter first. I am hopping on geting some input from others because I have some of thease russian doorknob caps that have a RF rating

Link2

your doorknob caps that you all ready have might be suitible. I considered taking a bunch and paralleling them on some aluminuim plates. the advantage is that the coil can be tuned by removing caps from a bank. The G27N120BN is a good choice, they are 500 watt devices.
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Marko
Thu Nov 17 2011, 06:51AM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
Posts: 3145
teravolt wrote ...

Hi Grenadier I am workinig on gatering up the parts for QCW and I am working on the converter first. I am hopping on geting some input from others because I have some of thease russian doorknob caps that have a RF rating

Link2

your doorknob caps that you all ready have might be suitible. I considered taking a bunch and paralleling them on some aluminuim plates. the advantage is that the coil can be tuned by removing caps from a bank. The G27N120BN is a good choice, they are 500 watt devices.

The KVI 3 caps are lossy ceramic type, they are useless for anything but low frequencies and DC. The general rule is, if the cap doesn't have kVAR rating on it, it's probably not intended to run any reactive power at all.

Marko
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teravolt
Thu Nov 17 2011, 02:45PM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
Location: Berkeley, ca.
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Marko, I have seen pictures of thease caps as tank caps in rf tube amplifier equipment. they may not be as saperior as mica but I think thay will do at least for me. have you tried using them before.
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Mads Barnkob
Thu Nov 17 2011, 03:43PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
Location: Denmark, Odense C
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Marko wrote ...

teravolt wrote ...

Hi Grenadier I am workinig on gatering up the parts for QCW and I am working on the converter first. I am hopping on geting some input from others because I have some of thease russian doorknob caps that have a RF rating

Link2

your doorknob caps that you all ready have might be suitible. I considered taking a bunch and paralleling them on some aluminuim plates. the advantage is that the coil can be tuned by removing caps from a bank. The G27N120BN is a good choice, they are 500 watt devices.

The KVI 3 caps are lossy ceramic type, they are useless for anything but low frequencies and DC. The general rule is, if the cap doesn't have kVAR rating on it, it's probably not intended to run any reactive power at all.

Marko

I have some smaller ones of the same type, here is the datasheet

CAPACITY: 470 pF (+20 -20 %)

TEST Voltage: 24.000 VDC

MAX. WORKING Voltage: 16.000 VDC

MAX. WORKING current at f=30MHz: 15A (200 A pulse)

Dissipation factor at f=30MHz: <0,002

Insulation resistance: >10000 MOhm

Temperature of work: -60* +120*C (-76 to 248F)

Dimensions: 25x16 mm (0,98"D x 0,63"high)

Mass: 45 gramm (1,6oz)
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