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astralhighway
Tue Sept 27 2011, 11:47AM
astralhighway Registered Member #4107 Joined: Sun Sept 25 2011, 07:30PM
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Wolfman, re your idea of sticking a 'one or 10 megohm resistor on the end to make sure it's safe' - forget it. The resistor will most likely be fried with any sort of current passing through it at this voltage. There's no way to make 60Kv at more than tiny milliamps safe. Be very careful if using a high current source such as a transformer. To answer your question, two neon sign transformers in series will provide the 60Kv. This is a dangerous configuration, be warned, that is One touch lethal!
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Pinky's Brain
Tue Sept 27 2011, 02:07PM
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wolfman29 wrote ...
My application is continuous, low current, high voltage. Basically, I am looking to make a continuous, 10cm arc or so.
It won't be high voltage, once the arc is formed the resistance is low (hell, it can be negative ;). There is a huge difference between the strike voltage and the sustaining voltage.

What kind of atmosphere do you want the arc in? Low current arcs aren't terribly stable.

Some kind of SMPS with an output inductor to keep the current even would be a better idea than a plain HV supply with ballast IMO. Alternatively, you can strike the arc with a HV pulse and maintain it with a different power supply (probably in the range of a couple 100 to a 1000 volt).
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Adam Munich
Tue Sept 27 2011, 08:46PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Just to give you an idea duck, here is an x-ray transformer.



It's designed to supply 75kV at 7mA, but its open circuit voltage is about 150kV allowing the arc to strike at 8 inches or so. After the arc has struck the current is probably about 60mA at some low voltage. XRTs don't have a 100% duty cycle, but they certainly make awesome arcs.
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Pinky's Brain
Wed Sept 28 2011, 06:44PM
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Here is an interesting paper about a low current arc in air at atmospheric pressure.

They mention that it can be done by using a HV source with a very high resistance ballast, but at the cost of putting a ton of power into the ballast ... instead they use a HV source with active current control.
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