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pauleddy
Tue Jul 19 2011, 12:51AM Print
pauleddy Registered Member #2909 Joined: Wed Jun 09 2010, 12:31AM
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I have recently came accros 528 9V pile aklkaine batteries, and was wonder what to do with them any ideals?
i could make a big battery, or string them all to gether and make a 4.5KV battery.
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Forty
Tue Jul 19 2011, 01:27AM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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you can't series more than a few of them. batteries have an internal resistance which generates heat. more batteries in series=more heat. 9v batteries are even worse because they are made from 6 individual cells already placed in series. i'd keep like 100 of them and donate the rest to a robotics club or something.
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haxor5354
Tue Jul 19 2011, 01:40AM
haxor5354 Registered Member #2063 Joined: Sat Apr 04 2009, 03:16PM
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put them in parallel and short them out wink
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Bjørn
Tue Jul 19 2011, 01:42AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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For a given power the losses will go down with increased voltage because the current will be lower. With a given current the losses will be the same per battery so worst case is that you waste the same precentage.

If you make a high voltage battery you need to be very careful with it because it will be really dangerous, that includes adding a few fuses so you don't short it and start a toxic fire inferno.
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haxor5354
Tue Jul 19 2011, 01:45AM
haxor5354 Registered Member #2063 Joined: Sat Apr 04 2009, 03:16PM
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how did you manage to get that many 9v batteries?
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klugesmith
Tue Jul 19 2011, 01:54AM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Do the packages permit them to be snapped together to make series strings?

In such a string, the total voltage, internal resistance, and power capability go up in direct
proportion to the number of cells. (number of 6-cell units).
Internal heating per cell is constant for a given current.
100 mA is a pretty heavy load for 9V alkalines, and will deplete them much faster than you would figure from their nominal mAh rating. Link2

But 13 cells would give you nominally 117 volts when fresh, and could easily run some 120V night lights or Christmas lights. Beware of shocks.

Check out Link2

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pauleddy
Tue Jul 19 2011, 02:00AM
pauleddy Registered Member #2909 Joined: Wed Jun 09 2010, 12:31AM
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I found them an a junk yard they where in unopened case, but after going though about 100 of them only 5-6 arr <8V most of them are 3V~6V i think they are quit old some are blowted, i might just sent them to a recycling center, or exract the all the Mn02 out of them
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haxor5354
Tue Jul 19 2011, 02:21AM
haxor5354 Registered Member #2063 Joined: Sat Apr 04 2009, 03:16PM
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pauleddy wrote ...

I found them an a junk yard they where in unopened case, but after going though about 100 of them only 5-6 arr <8V most of them are 3V~6V i think they are quit old some are blowted, i might just sent them to a recycling center, or exract the all the Mn02 out of them




ahhhh no wonder.... i've got a 9v battery from 2001 and it still has 6.45v in it.
2 years ago,i got bored one day and did an experiment where I took a fresh 9v Energizer to power a small 3mm red LED in series with a 470k resistor. Im surprised to see the led still glowing today. thats roughly 17,520 hours!!!
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Austin the Ozone
Wed Jul 20 2011, 03:43AM
Austin the Ozone Registered Member #3989 Joined: Thu Jul 07 2011, 05:10PM
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haxor5354 wrote ...




ahhhh no wonder.... i've got a 9v battery from 2001 and it still has 6.45v in it.
2 years ago,i got bored one day and did an experiment where I took a fresh 9v Energizer to power a small 3mm red LED in series with a 470k resistor. Im surprised to see the led still glowing today. thats roughly 17,520 hours!!!
WOW suprised
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pauleddy
Wed Jul 20 2011, 04:18AM
pauleddy Registered Member #2909 Joined: Wed Jun 09 2010, 12:31AM
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mabe i will buy a bunch of LEDs and resistors and make some form of glow art or somthing like that
i have gon though a few more case there voltages are pretty random right know im sorting them in to piles of <8V 3v~7V and >3V i found dates on the boxes some are from 2003 and others are from 2006
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