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Ben Solon
Tue Jul 12 2011, 02:56PM Print
Ben Solon Registered Member #3900 Joined: Thu May 19 2011, 08:28PM
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i just got some to247 igbts off ebay surplus, and on the tube they come in, it says static sensitive device. i have never known igbts where, and i had already touched them without any antistatic gear. are they actualy static sensitive devices, or is that just standard print on the tube. please tell me if there is reason behind my worry that i have rendered all 30 igbts useless!
-ben
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Mathias
Tue Jul 12 2011, 03:57PM
Mathias Registered Member #1381 Joined: Fri Mar 07 2008, 05:24PM
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Of course. It's kind of obvious if you think about it. The IGBT is a hybrid device with a "MOSFET" as the
input device, which then drives a silicon–controlled rectifier (SCR) as a switched output device.
Voltage (Field) controlled devices , have some kind of gate oxid layer which has threshold and brakedown voltage ratings, as charge builds up a channel forms between the semiconducting layers, but if the field shrength exceeds a certain level than the gate oxid will start to brake down, resulting in one of the device's failure modes.

But to answer your question , probably your igbts still work , as long as you weren't floating at high potencial, at that time :)
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Ben Solon
Tue Jul 12 2011, 05:56PM
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ok, as long as i can still use them XD. all i did was walk dow some carpeted stairs. and one i noticed the warning, i was touching every metal object i passed as to discharge. is there any way to test them though without using them? and i plan on buying some anti static stuff.

edit: wait... does that mean i could have broken mosfets before through static? because i havn't.
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Dr. ISOTOP
Tue Jul 12 2011, 06:34PM
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I've never ESD's a transistor before...don't worry about it, you don't need antistatic gear while handling them.
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Dr. Drone
Tue Jul 12 2011, 07:21PM
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Ben Solon
Wed Jul 13 2011, 02:13PM
Ben Solon Registered Member #3900 Joined: Thu May 19 2011, 08:28PM
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so today i just made a diy static wrist strap. the wrist strap is a metal wire em shield for computer cable. then there is a ling stranded wire with an alagator clip at the end. this can clip to pipes and other grounded objects.

is this sufficient? another thing: if i keep all the pins at the same potential, even if i am charged and i touch the pins no current wants flow through the igbt because the easier path is through the wire or whatever conects the pins, right?
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genious 7
Wed Jul 13 2011, 03:08PM
genious 7 Registered Member #2887 Joined: Sat May 29 2010, 11:10PM
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Yes, it should work, although a resistor is commonly placed between ground and the wrist, This is made so that if you touch a voltage source, the resistor will limit the current flowing through your arm to ground. Static electricity has a very high impedance, so this resistance does not affect the reliability of the wrist. I don't remember the value of the resistor right now, but I think it was around 1k (or was it 10k, investigate it).
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Dr. Drone
Wed Jul 13 2011, 03:27PM
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Jul 13 2011, 03:37PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I have never had a power MOSFET or IGBT damaged by static electricity. In fact, I was playing with a ~100 kV dc power supply on my desk with some FETs lying around in it, things were moving, sparking and sticking together on the desk - but the FETs survived. I don't encourage anyone to try this, it's just to show that larger FETs and IGBTs will survive quite some voltages floating around.
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Ben Solon
Wed Jul 13 2011, 03:49PM
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i think im ok then, i dont plan on using the strap for anything other than handling semiconductors. if i need anything more high tech, il just buy a cheap 15$ one. well thanks for the help :D now i know not to touch mosfets unless i know im discharged
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