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Dr. ISOTOP
Thu Jun 30 2011, 07:09AM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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If you are still learning about Tesla coils (grounding, ballasting, etc) I would
strongly
strongly
strongly
strongly
discoura ge building a quad-MOT coil as your first coil. It's somewhat more lethal than smaller coils.
Disregard this if you've been playing with high-current HV in the past.
TC's will generally not radiate enough to damage electronics. I would not run a quad-pack anywhere that remotely resembles indoors (e.g. a terrace).
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aris
Sat Jul 02 2011, 06:50PM
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I think to use as power supply 2mots with a voltage doubler.For the doubler can i use the mo caps?How much capacitance i need?Also with this dc output i need to make any changes to classic spark gap tesla coil?
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aris
Sun Jul 03 2011, 06:59PM
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Can someone answer me what i need to do to make a dc working spark gap tesla coil?
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Dr. ISOTOP
Sun Jul 03 2011, 07:37PM
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Calm down and stop doubleposting; its only been a day.
Yes, MO caps work fine. Amount of capacitance you need depends on how much Vdrop you can tolerate at your design current. No, you don't need to make any changes.
Also, don't kill yourself. Familiarize yourslef with HV before making MOT coils.
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aris
Sun Jul 03 2011, 08:54PM
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Thank you for your reply!SO i dont need any DC RESONANT CHARGING CIRCUIT to make the coil?
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Fraggle
Mon Jul 04 2011, 12:32AM
Fraggle Registered Member #1526 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:56AM
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You obviously haven`t done any research and if you try to make a dc coil now it almost certainly won`t work because you have to ballast the ht side or you`ll blow your diodes.
Please don`t now post:

"WQhat is BALLAST how I make that !!!????"
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Zack
Tue Jul 05 2011, 04:03PM
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It depends on how big you want the coil to be. If you want a large one, use 4; If you want a small tesla coil, use 1. Using 2 transformers will lose a lot of energy without very much output imo.
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Dr. ISOTOP
Tue Jul 05 2011, 06:15PM
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Zack wrote ...

It depends on how big you want the coil to be. If you want a large one, use 4; If you want a small tesla coil, use 1. Using 2 transformers will lose a lot of energy without very much output imo.

Why? There are many things wrong with dual MOT stacks, but I've never heard of low power as one of them...
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Fraggle
Wed Jul 06 2011, 02:54PM
Fraggle Registered Member #1526 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:56AM
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Hmm, I just re-read my own post of a few days ago and realised I was unnecessarily grumpy - sorry about that. Anyhow, I recommend this page:

Link2

which answers all your questions if you read it carefully.
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Zack
Wed Jul 06 2011, 04:24PM
Zack Registered Member #3624 Joined: Mon Jan 17 2011, 01:08AM
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bwang wrote ...

Why? There are many things wrong with dual MOT stacks, but I've never heard of low power as one of them...

I guess I've just had a bad experience with MOTs. I had a dual MOT setup for a vttc and one of them was just slightly more powerful than the other. When a wire shorted out, I wondered why they were barely giving any power, until the shorted one literally exploded :( When I used Four mots, one of the transformers still fried, but it just stopped working and didn't explode. I think you have more wiggle room with four.
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