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Chip Fixes
Fri Apr 15 2011, 01:10AM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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magnet18 wrote ...

Proud to say our school still uses it's machine shop, they have students make things like soccer goals and teach welding.
I live in one of those little farm communities where students that want to be farmers > students that want to be engineers.
As such, I have learned everything remotely related to electricity on the interwebs.
I like my school, even though were a farming town, we have large touchscreen-projector setups in every room K-12, and an excess of computers and bandwidth. It's nice. Now they just need to get around to buying ram, the current stuff isn't worth popping out of the cases (which I could do in <30 seconds) and fortunately for anyone who knows what command prompt means, the security is crap cheesey

Ha that is my school as well. We have a pretty good security firewall that manages to block more good things then bad but we figured out that if you unplug the internet cable before log-in then you can access the control panel and command prompt and such. Actually last year a group of seniors crashed the online grading system for several months as well as remotely turning off any computer in the computer labs :D so that was quite funny. Although a little overboard... they were never caught.
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Nicko
Fri Apr 15 2011, 06:32AM
Nicko Registered Member #1334 Joined: Tue Feb 19 2008, 04:37PM
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magnet18 wrote ...

Proud to say our school still uses it's machine shop, they have students make things like soccer goals and teach welding.
I live in one of those little farm communities where students that want to be farmers > students that want to be engineers.
As such, I have learned everything remotely related to electricity on the interwebs.
I like my school, even though were a farming town, we have large touchscreen-projector setups in every room K-12, and an excess of computers and bandwidth. It's nice. Now they just need to get around to buying ram, the current stuff isn't worth popping out of the cases (which I could do in <30 seconds) and fortunately for anyone who knows what command prompt means, the security is crap cheesey
My sons' school, which is a UK academic (selective academic rather than vocation-based) state school, has CNC lathes, plasma torches, laser cutters, vacuum forming, welding, a wrought iron forge, 3d-printing etc. and is not unusual in that in UK secondary schools... and even though its single-sex (boys) has great home economics facilities which give courses (open to parents too) on everything from pastry to sushi.

I sure wish some of that was around when I was at school...
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magnet18
Sat Apr 16 2011, 01:19AM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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@nicko- I'm jealous of his machine shop, though not the fact that it's a boys school ;)
@campbadger- ours isn;t that bad, it requires a connection to the server to login, and they've done a pretty good job protecting the essential stuff, like grades, though it doesn't matter since no one at the school knows how to code, and I;m not about to learn to since they would know it was me in about 8 seconds
I did accidentally (I swear, it honestly was) get a vrius into our system that changed all the bars at the top of the screen (we still had XP) to say hacked by godzilla, that was fun for a few weeks.
I could do more, but I don;t want to mess with it, because a harmless prank would probably get me expelled since computers scare most people since they're all magical, and anyone who can hack something always has evil intentions :P
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Nah
Sat Apr 16 2011, 04:31PM
Nah Registered Member #3567 Joined: Mon Jan 03 2011, 10:49PM
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In my opinion, its not the schools, but the kids.

The school here is one of the most well funded in the state and has everything from cooking to machining. They have their own wind tunnel, lathe, and other cool shit. The problem is the kids in the classes are the most idiotic people on the planet. Not a single one of them know what a resistor is. Their maners are lacking as well. (Largest understatement I've ever stated.)
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magnet18
Sat Apr 16 2011, 09:46PM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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Nah wrote ...

In my opinion, its not the schools, but the kids.

The school here is one of the most well funded in the state and has everything from cooking to machining. They have their own wind tunnel, lathe, and other cool shit. The problem is the kids in the classes are the most idiotic people on the planet. Not a single one of them know what a resistor is. Their maners are lacking as well. (Largest understatement I've ever stated.)
They should start more advanced schools with harder work and make it so the kids themselves must want to go there, their parents can't sigh them up.
Of course, then there would be like 3 people at the school...
99.99% of kids just don't give a crap.
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Chip Fixes
Sun Apr 17 2011, 12:26AM
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I could do more, but I don;t want to mess with it, because a harmless prank would probably get me expelled since computers scare most people since they're all magical, and anyone who can hack something always has evil intentions :P
Ha this is so true at my school! there are like 5 people who can code at my school and sadly, I am the only person who knows how to build circuits. Our district puts more money into band than anything else, even though band will not help solve the energy crisis.
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magnet18
Sun Apr 17 2011, 02:02AM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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Our band sucks, but show chior gets everyones attention.
I honestly think theres only one other person who can code anything and theres one other (different) person who can construct a simple circuit.
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quicksilver
Tue Apr 19 2011, 02:51PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
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A great many things have suffered in education that were not necessarily the complete fault of the schools.
The English language (especially in the USA) has become infused with a bizarre mix of inappropriate prepositions & illogical phrases.
Why does the expression "like" crop up consistently? Why is the preposition "I went" used inappropriately? This has become so endemic that we don't raise an eyebrow.
EXAMPLE:
" I was like so involved with the class that when I, like, got a poor grade, I went, wow, what's wrong?"
_____
This form of speech has become the standard for many; to such an extent that it is often unnoticed. The use of "texting" via telecommunications has had a great impact on spelling, since they are in use, such a plethora of abbreviations have become habit.
These issues do not rest at the foot of the schools unless they are tolerated.
Since I have no school-age children I do not know to what extent they are tolerated. However these issues are so endemic, I would imagine there may be more than enough responsibility to go around...

I once knew an older fellow who had a lengthy career in a shipyard and would speak in the most colorful language. He could string together nearly a paragraph of scatology & four-letter words. It was fairly obscene, yet had a certain style to it that was pretty amusing. I have no issue with alternative phrasing if there is some creativity to it. However what passes for common grammar or simple communication today is a far cry from creative.
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James
Tue Apr 19 2011, 06:10PM
James Registered Member #3610 Joined: Thu Jan 13 2011, 03:29AM
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My highschool had already closed down the excellent wood shop and metal shop by the time I arrived, and that was in the mid-late 90s. They still had the welding class, but I heard they shut that down several years back. It's idiotic I think, sure there are trade schools, but who is going to think to go to a trade school if they have not got a taste of something? There is value to learning to work with one's hands, even if one does not become a machinist or carpenter.

The other phenomenally stupid thing they did is forcing the best chemistry teacher I ever met to resign. He was great, made kids love science. Was notorious for making explosions and fireballs and such, dangerous looking stuff but he taught there for 22 years without a single injury. His science club made the front page of the paper after winning a competition and the article showed flaming methane bubbles. Some parents freaked out and the whole thing snowballed, the awful and clueless vice principal mentioned possible weapons charges for his carbide "cannon" (which doesn't shoot anything, it's just a perfectly legal noisemaker) and other stuff. From what I heard, he moved on to teach at a university. I'm just glad to have experienced that class prior to the mess.
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Adam Munich
Wed Apr 20 2011, 04:01AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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@quicksilver

Often I eavesdrop on girls' conversations to see how many "likes" it takes for them to get their point across. Rarely any points are ever made, but nonetheless the likes get old. The "likes" make talking to girls a lot less fun than it should be.

Also, the english teachers don't really give a damn about the likes, and some of them even talk with some un-needed "likes".

Typical "conversation."

* OMG people who say like alot are like, super annoying and I like don't know what to do about them.
* LOL I know what you mean, I told ashley to stop saying like so much and she went, "don't you tell me what I can and can't say".... {dribble continues}
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