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Ash Small

Sat Mar 19 2011, 12:06PM

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Traces of radioactive iodine found in tap water in Tokyo, other areas: gov't

Excessive radiation was found Saturday in milk and spinach in Fukushima and Ibaraki prefectures

Patrick wrote ...

haxor5354 wrote ...

would nuclear fusion power plants in the future ever fail this this?

I'm going to say no. No fusion plant would fail like a fission plant, maybe some tritium, maybe some radioactive solid structures would need to be abandoned, maybe some workers killed at site. But as for endangering/exposing hundreds of thousands of square miles with Iodine, Cesium, Strontium like Idaho SL-1, Chernobyl, Windscale, and Fukushima. I think the answer is no.

But Im sure others will disagree.

I agree with you, Patrick. Any 'disaster' at a fusion plant would be no worse than any other industrial accident.

Proud Mary

Sat Mar 19 2011, 12:22PM

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Ash Small wrote ...

Traces of radioactive iodine found in tap water in Tokyo, other areas: gov't
Excessive radiation was found Saturday in milk and spinach in Fukushima and Ibaraki prefectures

Here is the outstanding 1957 British PathÃ© video newsreel coverage of "Atomic Milk" in the aftermath of the Windscale disaster:

Patrick

Sat Mar 19 2011, 09:51PM

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Pinky's Brain wrote ...

Unless of course you use the fusion to breed fuel for fission, which has been suggested quite frequently. With the amount of private money caught up in fission plants...

I could not in good conscience support this pursuit, for any amount of money. It would defeat the safety and princible design of fusion, much like windscale. "Take your dam fission fuel somewhere else for enriching!" is what I would say if I were the operator of a fusion plant. But thats just me. I'm sure they would out promote some coward above me, who would be fine with it, for profit of course.

Pinky's Brain wrote ...

I hope solar/thermal becomes economically unbeatable long before that ...

I used to be this optimistic, but now I fear solar/thermal will not amount to much.

Pinky's Brain

Sat Mar 19 2011, 10:37PM

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Why? Do you think the material requirements per Watt are too big?

Steve Conner

Sat Mar 19 2011, 10:44PM

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It's not as simple as that.

If you covered the Sahara with PVs, you would have colossal amounts of cheap electricity. But there's nobody around to consume it.

PV is already competitive in places like California and Arizona. The utilities give you a subsidy. They love it because it offsets the summer demand for air conditioning.

Here in sunny Scotland it's utterly useless. The panels take 25 years to generate back the amount of energy needed to manufacture them, vs. 2 in California. Even with the UK Govt's new 41p/kWh subsidy, the payback time on your investment is about 8 years.

So, we just installed a 300 megawatt wind farm instead.

Patrick

Sat Mar 19 2011, 11:31PM

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Pinky's Brain wrote ...

Why? Do you think the material requirements per Watt are too big?

As Steve Mconnor said. Its hard to create a solution from some part of the world, then apply it equally well throughout the rest of the world.

I have watched "Solyndra" here in CA silicon valley, and their solar cylindrical cells are superior to almost all others Ive seen, yet there are large sections of the world that they're useless in.

doctor electrons

Sun Mar 20 2011, 04:28AM

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Hmmm.. Now theyre saying there are traces of radiation being detected in California. CNN and Fox News.

Adam Munich

Sun Mar 20 2011, 04:32AM

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I bet they are detecting radiation from their smoke alarms.

Faux news... :facepalm:

haxor5354

Sun Mar 20 2011, 04:59AM

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i thought it would be cool to have a Geiger counter from the cold war. but I never bought 1 because I didn't think it'll be useful till now

Dr. Drone

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