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Flyback (collaboration) for Corona, Insulation, Waveform purposes.

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Patrick
Thu Mar 10 2011, 11:11PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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OK antonio which one?


1299798694 2431 FT110121 555pwm3

or this one?

1299798694 2431 FT110121 555pwm4


im still thinking about pins four and five? i dont like them left floating.
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Proud Mary
Fri Mar 11 2011, 12:33AM
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Don't you think a buffer - such as a simple NPN/PNP totem pole - between the 555 and the gate, would make switching a bit more snappy? The capacitance of both the gate and your TVS diode have to be charged up afresh on each cycle, so the gate waveform could start to look as mole hills do after a shower of rain, and where would your dv/dt be then?
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Patrick
Fri Mar 11 2011, 12:50AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Proud Mary wrote ...

Don't you think a buffer - such as a simple NPN/PNP totem pole - between the 555 and the gate, would make switching a bit more snappy? The capacitance of both the gate and your TVS diode have to be charged up afresh on each cycle, so the gate waveform could start to look as mole hills do after a shower of rain, and where would your dv/dt be then?
Alright I suppose I could tolerate more components in exchange for more V. I assume you say totem pole as that would be your first choice?

should i use To-220's or the To-92's ?
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Antonio
Fri Mar 11 2011, 02:21AM
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Pin 5 shall be connected to ground with a 0.1 uF capacitor. Pin 4 goes to Vcc. You can use pin 5 to implement a protection against excessive current. Something like this:
555
Your second circuit is better. The capacitor shall be chosen so the voltage at the drain of the transistor doesn't get too high when it switches off.
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Patrick
Fri Mar 11 2011, 02:28AM
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let me run the simulator on a totem pole configuration, ill post more soon.
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Patrick
Sat Mar 12 2011, 08:06AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Im going to switch over to a 556 timer, one 556-1/2 will be setting the on time (monostable), while the other 556-2/2 will be triggering the first 1/2 astable (frequency).
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Proud Mary
Sat Mar 12 2011, 11:58AM
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Patrick wrote ...

Im going to switch over to a 556 timer, one 556-1/2 will be setting the on time (monostable), while the other 556-2/2 will be triggering the first 1/2 astable (frequency).

Something like this?


1299931006 543 FT0 556 Pulse Generator


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Patrick
Thu Mar 17 2011, 08:18AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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That was exactly the circuit I wanted Proud Mary
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Proud Mary
Thu Mar 17 2011, 05:46PM
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Patrick wrote ...

That was exactly the circuit I wanted Proud Mary

Don't forget that CMOS varieties like the TLC556 series can motor along at up to 2 MHz.
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Patrick
Thu Mar 17 2011, 06:05PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Proud Mary wrote ...

Don't forget that CMOS varieties like the TLC556 series can motor along at up to 2 MHz.

This particular circuit will top out at 25kHz, but I guess near vertical sides will be helped out at 2Mhz. Then again the transistors will have more to do with rise/fall time then the timer driving them.


When I used the double diode trick for independent timing resistors, I forgot that changing one on/off time also changes the other off/on time. So 556 it is.

I beleive I will be able to adjust the on-time for best voltage/spark length, while the frequency can be increased or decreased as needed for average power.
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