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Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
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blackplasma wrote ...
omg gurls plzhugme
Thats the funniest thing I've seen all day! Man thats pretty bad BP. But seriously, just do like Plasmanic says, and you'll have a girl in no time! Just don't act desperate though! (I've got a pretty funny story about that.)
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Location: florida, usa
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That was a pretty good read, and is along the same lines i have used to explain why nerds are usually not popular. I would say i was a nerd, but I was popular. This was likely because most girls thought me attractive, and I was bigger and stronger than most guys. Due to my nerdness, i was too pre-occupied with science to have a GF in highschool and thus just drove the girls and guys to call me gay (although the girls STILL strove to gain my attention).
Playing football gained me much respect, as I was one of the hardest hitting defensive ends we had, and then became the best punter the school ever saw(got invited to play here at FSU). So that made me a celeb in school as everyone knew who Bobby Bowden was and would see the coaches coming to my practices and games. I didnt like to party, at all. Nor did i like to dance or go to the dances.
I can say though that now at age 22 and a senior in college, girls are a nerds wosrt nightmare!Once i gave them time, i lost all my time for all my nerd endevours, as well as funding They lead nerds to pain as girls just cant be reasoned with. So watch out nerds!Girls are trouble!
I guess due to my strange blessings of good looks, athletic skill, and humor combined with higher than normal intelligence, i had a very ,VERY eccentric childhood!
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Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Wow, that certainly shattered a few stereotypes. I don't know if the rest of us ordinary nerds, who were real ugly and hopeless at football (or soccer or whatever) ought to feel better or worse.
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I didn't really give any thought to popularity in high school after observing the way the social ladder exists. It is funny to think of where all these people end up at the 10 year reunion. I was never tall nor short at the time, nor fat or skinny. There weren't any geek groups that I could identify at my school (otherwise I'd be happy to yack about such) but I ended up fitting into a close-knit non-stoner "heavy metal group" which was fairly small but somewhat middle-of-the-road in terms of popularity (mainly because the group included my friend's band and they'd play in the talent shows each year). I would say I was favored/popular in two classes with the instructors but they were great teachers which I could casually talk to.
I had a few female admirers but I was completely obvlivious to the fact and found out a year or two after high school was over, which was depressing as I actually liked one of them in particular but never had the time or effort to really seek out and dedicate my time/efforts into carrying a relationship during high school, in which I figured most turn out to be fickle anyhow (which they do in most cases).
I never attended any after school events or dances (or proms), and tried to avoid the educationally pointless "spirit/pep rallies" that were mandatory during school hours. Our school district was a bit wacky in it's priorities and budget spending. I only did two years there and ended up doing my senior year on a college campus for high school and college credit which was nice since it was free.
Junior high school was strange because the honors/AP courses made you well known, but not necessarily well liked. I did those for two years before I dropped out of them because I saw the -exact- same people every single class and it got really old, really, really fast. At that time, I felt more relaxed in regular courses where conversations don't automatically default to esoteric facts and attempts to outsmart one another. Though later in life, I picked up some debating tools and I do enjoy getting into a heated debate now and then.
College was strange. It would be difficult to carry on a decent conversation with the opposite sex many times because they would prosthelytize about the environment or some other hippy-subject which got old really fast. There were several engineering and science majors, but they were pretty darn focused on schooling because they felt they had to prove themselves in a male-dominated field so that's a cold turkey. Personally, I'm not really concerned with a serious relationship until later in life. I want to get my hobbies and toys out of the way now before I'd have to juggle around a woman and/or (hopefully no) kids.
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Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 04:18AM
Location: Bowdoin, Maine
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I'm not entirely sure if my school fits the social model put forth in that essay. There are the party goers/druggies/'cool' crowd, who get in fights and spread gossip and do the whole high-school-drama thing, and there are the normal kids, and then there are the unpopular ones. I fit into the 'normal' category (sort of). I'm pretty well liked by most people, though I'm not a very sociable person. I'm told that I'm sarcastic and pessimistic. I say I'm realistic.
Getting into the 'unpopular' category is actually kind of difficult. There are some assholes who will pick on geeks and nerds, but for the most part people stick to ragging on those closer to them. There is one girl in particular in my math class who I find absolutely hilarious, because she gets this real serious tone, her eyes widen, and she semi-whispers (though it's so quiet in the room that everyone can still hear her) and reveals some enlightening information, like "I heard from Mandy that Lauren got drunk and had sex with Dan." She spreads so much shit about people, I just can't believe people take her seriously. Anyway, I digress. Back to the unpopular category: It's difficult to get there, you pretty much have to be asking for it. I can only think of two universally disliked people off the top of my head. One of them is a stereotypical nerd, except he's not smart, and the other one is LOUD, and that's it. In a school without real walls, being loud is enough to make the population of the school hate you.
AFAIK, the majority of the school is fairly tolerant. Maybe I just don't notice, because I don't give a rat's ass about what goes on there, but it definately seems that way.
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