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gchickusa
Sun Feb 20 2011, 10:23PM
gchickusa Registered Member #3698 Joined: Sat Feb 19 2011, 11:31AM
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fyi DerStrom8 the caps you linked to in ebay are mine and are NOT polarized......
Herr Zapp.....using these currently in a 450KV 6KW supply, but will edit the listing if you think these are unsuitable for tesla coils.
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DerStrom8
Sun Feb 20 2011, 11:53PM
DerStrom8 Registered Member #3704 Joined: Sun Feb 20 2011, 01:13PM
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Herr Zapp wrote ...

Der Strom -

A safety factor of at least 2X the peak supply voltage is recommended as kind of a minimum margin. Of course this requirement is affected by the voltage safety margin that the capacitor manufacturer has built into his capacitor design; something that is unknown to the end user.

To start, multiply the RMS output voltage of your HV transformer (9KV in your case) by 1.414 to find the peak AC voltage that the capacitor must withstand. Then, multiply by 2 to get a target voltage rating for the MMC string.

If you have access to military or industrial surplus, or ham radio swapmeets, you may find other types of capacitors that are suitable for Tesla coil use, but rarely will they be the exact value you are looking for. High-voltage pulse-rated capacitors are found in industrial and medical laser systems, military radar and sonar systems, indistrial induction-heating systems, and high-power military and commercial radio transmitters. Sometimes interesting capacitors show up on eBay, but you never know their history, and purchase is always a gamble.

Building a conservatively-rated MMC for your system using the C-D 942 capacitors should cost you less than $100, and will likely give the best performance and reliability in the long run.

If you're going to take the salt-water capacitor route, I'd strongly recommend getting an inexpensive multimeter with a capacitance scale to measure the actual capacitance of your bottles. Knowing the actual capacitance value can help eliminate a long and frustrating exercise in "blind tuning".

Herr Zapp

Unfortunately, I do not have access to military surplus. I also do not have $100 to spend on a MMC--I'm rather cheap that way. If it helps you to understand, I'm trying to build this Tesla coil for under $50 total. I have already spent $15 on the secondary coil wire, but I need a capacitor. Everything else I have gotten for free. I am trying to build this as a "poor man's Tesla coil." I hope this helps you to understand why I am being so picky ;)
I invested in a DMM some time ago when I first started with Tesla coil capacitors--I though it might come in handy to be able to measure the capacitance.

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Arcstarter
Mon Feb 21 2011, 12:55AM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
Location: Beaumont, Texas, USA
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If these are those CJE, which they seem to be, do not buy them. I made the mistake, and the cap died with a 6/30 NST supply in seconds... They will never work on a tesla coil, i call false advertising! shades
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DerStrom8
Mon Feb 21 2011, 01:58AM
DerStrom8 Registered Member #3704 Joined: Sun Feb 20 2011, 01:13PM
Location: Vermont, U.S.A.
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Thanks, everyone, for all the replies and great information!
I guess I will just keep my eyes open on Ebay for another bargain. :)
Regards,
Der Strom
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