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HV CAPACITOR dV/dt CAPABILITY estimation (or design)

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Newton Brawn
Wed Feb 23 2011, 04:22PM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Tony Matt:

Please see the next reply.

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Newton Brawn
Thu Feb 24 2011, 09:03PM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Tony Matt:

The insulation between the plates, wires, electrodes and conductors shall be such that prevents the corona.

For insulation compound of a solid insulation and thin layer of air, the corona starting voltage is related to the thickness of the air layer, the dielectric constant of air, the thichness of the solid insulation and the dielectric constant of the solid insulation.
I am estimating the corona starting voltage using the AIEE publication done in April 1956. (now IEEE). Attached is a graphic that I use to estimate the corona starting voltage when the sparation of the electrodes is a layer of air and a solid insulation.

If the separation between the energized parts is just air, I consider 1mm of air for each 3900Vpeak

If the separation between the energized parts is a SURFACE of an insulation (creepage) I consider 1mm of air for each 800Vpeak.

In addition, a safety factor of 1.4 to 2.0 is recomendable.

This criteria I have used to make my capacitors and HV pulse tranformers.


Please see the graphic:


]corona_starting_voltage_simplified.pdf[/file]

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Newton
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Tony Matt
Tue Mar 08 2011, 11:20AM
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Newton:

Do you mind to send a copy of corona starting voltage publication ?

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Newton Brawn
Wed Mar 09 2011, 10:29PM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Tony Matt:

Despite I have used that publication to design insulation of HV transformers, capacitors, and even HV apparatus for long time, I do not have this publication anymore.

The complete publication is very good. you may get a copy in a public library, university library or even from some old AIEE member.

Now the paper "Calculation of Corona-Starting Voltage in Air-Solid Dielectric Systems" is published by the IEEE under the

ISSN: 0018-9510
Digital Object Identifier: 10.1109/AIEEPAS.1956.4499294
Date of Current Version: 07 May 2008

I hope someone can help!

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Newton
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Tony Matt
Sat Mar 19 2011, 09:03PM
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Newton:

Thanks for the refeence of the standard.... Any one can have this standard ... and email to me ??

By the way, here a link for capacitors.


Link2


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Newton Brawn
Mon Apr 25 2011, 09:56PM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Hi Tony;

Here a site that shows how to calculateted the creepage insulation in HV transformers. The same calculation to be used in design of margins of capacitors dielectric.


Link2

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