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joffa

Mon Jan 31 2011, 11:17AM

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Message loud and clear Chris.

It was clear from the first loaded response from Muttyfutty! that this site doesnt deal with fringe subjects.
It was my assumption this being a "Tesla" Related site with people that play with this stuff, they might have some input into the characterstics of the device I mentioned as it relates to the radiant energy research and devices, Tesla worked on.
I assumed wrong or no one here want's to be outcasted.

I'd like to thank Ash, Mattski and Nicko for there reply's.

Grant...

Adam Munich

Mon Jan 31 2011, 11:33AM

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By looking through the old archives you can see there were many free energy threads, but none of them were based on any real science. I mean, pulling electrons from the earth like your last thread dealt with is possible, but it is certainly not going to supply more than a couple microamps of power.

None of these "free energy" generators are measured and tested correctly, and that leads to inaccurate results. The kapagen one was measured with a wattmeter on the input and a luxmeter on the output. Why not a second wattmeter? Because that would have proved the device is just wasting energy.

joffa

Mon Jan 31 2011, 11:54AM

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I've seen the old threads and ones related to Naudin.

Youtube "Kapagen" has over 1600 videos
"Kapanadze" Has over 2000 videos.
Some vids show people using different devices to show the voltages and such, keep looking.

From the work JLN Labs has done, and others.
Everyone is copying the device or modifying it to suit using all sorts of different items, clear as daylight to see the wires being earthed, its plain as day and all I want is someone genuine to try it out and give the results.
I post and wait to see what people day rather then replying frequently, so please dont assume I have left the thread and if OPS feels this 2nd Topic is out of context for the site, thats ok..

Thanks all for replying, for better or worse.

Grant.

Proud Mary

Mon Jan 31 2011, 11:54AM

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I had the same difficulties and scepticism when trying to gain acceptance for my bolloxometer.

No one could even agree whether 'bolloxometer' should be pronounced bollox-ometer or bol-lox-o-meter, so in the end my invention got nowhere.

Had it been accepted, every forum post would now have the bolloxometer percentage display down in the right hand corner, while a red warning signal would have flashed and beeped when a post exceeded 66.6% bollox.

joffa

Mon Jan 31 2011, 12:06PM

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Well Mary, you hit the nail on the head with that retort.

Put your money where your mouth is.

In fact I challenge everyone on this site that is against things of this nature to build it as best described from the many websites and clips on youtube, test it out and prove or disprove it does what it's suppose to do.

I'd be glad to see the results if any from people like Mary and all the others that know for a fact that there right and such a thing can never be true.

uzzors2k

Mon Jan 31 2011, 12:34PM

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It's not our responsibility to prove you wrong, it's your responsibility to prove yourself correct. We already doubt the device works, so why invest time into something we can see no gains from? Since you have a different opinion, make it work, prove it, then come back and rub it in our faces. Until then we'll happily remain skeptics.

Proud Mary

Mon Jan 31 2011, 01:05PM

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I met similar mindless rejection when trying to gain clinical support for a method of assessing hypochondria in the dying - a system that would have proved to be of inestimable value in the management of 'death row' inmates in nations still using capital punishment.

Mattski

Mon Jan 31 2011, 04:15PM

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joffa wrote ...

In fact I challenge everyone on this site that is against things of this nature to build it as best described from the many websites and clips on youtube, test it out and prove or disprove it does what it's suppose to do.

I'd be glad to see the results if any from people like Mary and all the others that know for a fact that there right and such a thing can never be true.

Those who know enough to build and accurately test such a device generally know that it would be a waste of time to do so.

You may ask us then why we believe so strongly that it doesn't work when we have not built one for ourselves. I would turn that around and ask you why you even suspect such a device may work when thousands have tried and failed to harness free energy and it flies in the face of overwhelming experimental evidence in support of the laws of thermodynamics.

Steve Conner

Mon Jan 31 2011, 04:47PM

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Yes, the onus is on you to build the machine, get it working, take it to James Randi and claim your $1M.

Then we might take you seriously.

Proud Mary

Mon Jan 31 2011, 05:40PM

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There is nothing wrong with making unverifiable claims in itself - indeed theology and politics are founded on assertions requiring belief - but the findings of science exist whether we believe in them or not.

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