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TheBoozer
Sat Dec 25 2010, 01:50PM
TheBoozer Registered Member #1535 Joined: Wed Jun 11 2008, 11:37PM
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The systems I observed used Cm75's, Cm100's, and Cm150's...

I use 60N60's in my current toy. My fan runs all the time. After a six minute song, my heatsink reaches about 125°F.

Use an infrared thermometer. Touching things isn't a very accurate method of measurement.

Rich
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ScotchTapeLord
Sat Dec 25 2010, 04:22PM
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But if you CAN touch it, you know it's fine, thermally, at least.
Anyhow, I'd prefer my circuits stay below water's boiling point... it just seems safer.
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Gregory
Sat Dec 25 2010, 04:34PM
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The systems I observed used Cm75's, Cm100's, and Cm150's...

I use 60N60's in my current toy. My fan runs all the time. After a six minute song, my heatsink reaches about 125°F.

Use an infrared thermometer. Touching things isn't a very accurate method of measurement.

Rich

What is the current in your system? OCD limit? and voltage in gates? in my next coil i will use 60N60 too.
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TheBoozer
Sat Dec 25 2010, 06:34PM
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My topology is a 1/2 bridge fed by a doubler from 115vac in. OCD is set to 550a. My gates are fed +15/-15 from a GDT. Bridge on-time doesn't exceed 4% at the moment.

Rich
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Gregory
Sat Dec 25 2010, 08:36PM
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550A is a good limit. you've ran more in these IGBTs? with 30v on gates i will gate more performance? but will reduce the life of the igbts?
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Luca
Mon Dec 27 2010, 10:41AM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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Gregory wrote ...

550A is a good limit. you've ran more in these IGBTs? with 30v on gates i will gate more performance? but will reduce the life of the igbts?

With IXYS 60N60 I am currently hitting 600A with no problem at all...

Regards,

Luca
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Gregory
Mon Dec 27 2010, 05:09PM
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are you running 600A with 15v at gates or more? my igbts are IXGN60N60C2D1 i think that is robustter than 60n60
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Luca
Mon Dec 27 2010, 09:07PM
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Gregory wrote ...

are you running 600A with 15v at gates or more? my igbts are IXGN60N60C2D1 i think that is robustter than 60n60


IXGN60N60C2D1 is the IGBT that I am using...

However, I have around +/-20V on the gates.

With 15V I think that you cannot push this device to 600A...

Regards,

Luca
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Gregory
Mon Dec 27 2010, 11:19PM
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With 15V I think that you cannot push this device to 600A...

i think too.. i am thinking in put +-20 or more in the gates, in the datasheet is writed that it can manage +-30v in transient mode, but i don't know if reduce the life of the igbt..??
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Luca
Mon Dec 27 2010, 11:30PM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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Gregory wrote ...

With 15V I think that you cannot push this device to 600A...

i think too.. i am thinking in put +-20 or more in the gates, in the datasheet is writed that it can manage +-30v in transient mode, but i don't know if reduce the life of the igbt..??

This is quite a mistery... Also because they do not specify what "transient" means...

A good way to improve the gate driving is to connect the emitters of the IGBT in the "kelvin" mode, that is, use one emitter terminal to connect the "return" of the gate drive transformer and ONLY the other emitter terminal as actual power emitter. In this way you will reduce the negative effect of stray inductance on the emitter internal connection (bonding) which tends to decreas the actual gate-emitter voltage especially at high frequncies/currents.

Luca
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