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Maz

Tue May 30 2006, 12:20AM

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is not "Is Japanese possible too?"

its actually, i also speak japanese

i wrote in romaji b/c i didnt know i could write in æ—¥æœ¬èªž

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Simon

Tue May 30 2006, 12:40AM

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Maz wrote ...

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I'll reply in English for the sake of everyone else.

I started studying in grade 7 and did my last course in grade 11, so five years of formal study. I've also done heaps of study on my own, listening to Japanese radio broadcasts at one time. Now I watch anime a lot with the university anime society.

I've never been to Japan - but I'd love to go!

(BTW, that online translator did a pretty bad job on what was about the simplest Japanese grammar. Mental note: don't trust.)

Bored Chemist: thanks, but they'll just incentivise me with a shapeless containinator.

Ben

Tue May 30 2006, 05:10AM

Vigilatny
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Other than native english(or 'merikan as BC would say) I took 6 years of spanish and 2 years of latin. Which means all romance languages sound like mispronounced spanish to me. I can read them and understand enough to get by. As for spanish I'm fluent after a couple weeks of immersion, or at least the last two times I was. I know a bit of quechua, dutch, and afrikaans. I learned a little bit of pashto once.

I don't care to recall all the computer languages I know/have known. I do wonder what it is like for a non-english speaker to learn to program, especially those who don't use our alphabet. Are there any popular programming languages that don't use english? or converters? I would think there should be at least some russian ones.

I once read some c code in german.....they have some damned awfully long variable names.

Wilson

Tue May 30 2006, 08:58AM

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And for the sake of everyone else:
I've been studying japanese since year 8. Currently i'm in year 12 and taking extension jap.
I haven't been to Japan before, but in my free time, i always watch anime and listen to jap music.

btw, Maz, Simon, i hope i didn't go overboard with kanji usage

Alfons

Tue May 30 2006, 03:26PM

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Maz wrote ...

æ—¥æœ¬èªžã‚‚ã§ãã¾ã™ï½ž

is not "Is Japanese possible too?"

its actually, i also speak japanese

I knew these online translators weren't to trust

I find it quite strange that they do a better job in translating Chinese than they do in translating Japanese, though I always thought Chinese has more possible meanings / character / word!

Electroholic wrote ...

Native Chinese, well, Cantonese if you know the difference. English is my second language.

By the way; do cantonese-speaking people use the same characters as Mandarin-speakers? And do these characters have the same meaning? (I know they're pronounced differently)

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Wilson

Thu Jun 01 2006, 02:26PM

Registered Member #78 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:27AM
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The characters are the same yes, although mainlanders have a greater tendancy to use simplified chinese, which cuts down greatly on the stokes. They have the same meaning, so a cantonese speaker would understand an essay by a mandarin person. However, cantonese people have a whole sub-language composed totally of colliquialisms, most of which can't actually be written down in character form. As a result, most mandarin people wonder what the hell we're say when we swear

Bored Chemist

Thu Jun 01 2006, 06:04PM

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"Bored Chemist: What do you do when you get the sack after a few days of such insolence? Turn up at work the next day wearing a sack?"
They wouldn't dare try to sack me. They would just end up looking stupid at the tribunal because they forgot to use English. It's quite simple, if they use words that aren't in the dictionary I have to guess what they mean. I can't promise to guess correctly.
It's not insolent to be mistaken.
(Yes, I know "attention" is in the dictionary, but not as a verb)

Alex

Thu Jun 01 2006, 07:34PM

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Ben wrote ...

I once read some c code in german.....they have some damned awfully long variable names.

Haha, I suppose they would. German lends itself very well to infinately long words, so there's no need for camelcaps.

Alfons

Thu Jun 01 2006, 08:27PM

Registered Member #134 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 10:44PM
Location: Belgium
Posts: 86

Alex wrote ...

Ben wrote ...

I once read some c code in german.....they have some damned awfully long variable names.

Haha, I suppose they would. German lends itself very well to infinately long words, so there's no need for camelcaps.

Indeed

One of my favourites is "Umweltschutzgesetz" which means something like "law to protect the environment" (but then in 1 word of course).

McFluffin

Fri Jun 02 2006, 03:39AM

Registered Member #119 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 06:26AM
Location: USA
Posts: 114

Actual langs:
English(American, my native tounge), although as my friend says, "Me fail English? Thats unpossible!"
French, took two years, but, like English, I'm likely to say phrases like "J'ai happy!"
Little tidbits of Spanish I guess
Shakespeare English as I took that course this year :)
Computer:
C/C++(do this at work), PHP/MySQL, BASIC(Tandy 1000!), some PBASIC and Ti-BASIC, some 16 bit Intel asm, some HTML
On a side note, I don't know any real hackers that speak in leetspeak. How did that ever come about? I find it really annoying to try to read. Alfons, can you post a small German C program? I'd like to see it.

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