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Is there a more robust alternative to IRF3205 MOSFET?

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Steve Hobley
Sun Nov 21 2010, 06:49PM
Steve Hobley Registered Member #1731 Joined: Thu Oct 02 2008, 02:22PM
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I just PM's you back - yes it is a 5/15/24v SMPS I picked up from one of the surplus places online a couple of years back.

It puts out 5 amps at 24v.

I think I paid $25 for it.

Does anyone know if they make sockets for MOSFETS - since I keep blowing 'em it makes sense to solder in some form of "quick change" socket.

Any ideas?

Steve
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Tesla Fan
Sun Nov 21 2010, 08:00PM
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No sockets as far as know, and if you are using the full 100 amps of the MOSFET, it will have to be a very strong socket i think.

PS. I thought you used a different/modified version of the hungarian coil, i hope the info on the original site will be enough if i make that SSTC, thanks!
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Goodchild
Mon Nov 22 2010, 05:46AM
Goodchild Registered Member #2292 Joined: Fri Aug 14 2009, 05:33PM
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You may want to consider using IGBTs. IGBTs don't have a on resistance like MOSFETs do. Rather they operate more like a diode with a fixed voltage drop.
when I first built a SSTC I didn't even consider using IGBTs as it seemed that IGBTs were more for pulsed applications were MOSFETs handled a stated state "CW" type duty better.

I have found though that even in SSTCs IGBTs perform very well compared to MOSFETs when price is the driving factor. I know this is not the norm application for IGBTs but this is just my preference when it comes to choosing a switch.

Hope this helps
good luck
Eric
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Steve Conner
Mon Nov 22 2010, 09:59AM
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IGBTs are useless for low voltage, high current applications like this. They only show an advantage at higher voltages, above 250V or so.
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Steve Hobley
Mon Nov 22 2010, 03:42PM
Steve Hobley Registered Member #1731 Joined: Thu Oct 02 2008, 02:22PM
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Thanks for the replies - I have another batch of MOSFETS coming in today ;)

I think I'll solder in some pins and then attach the MOSFET legs to these so I can install new ones without having to remove the board from the case.

One other thing - the case is direct earth grounded but I can get a small shock from touching it when the coil is running - is this normal?
I'm bit concerned as the heatsink is connected to the case - maybe this is part of the problem?

At the moment I don't know if the coil is inducing the charge in the case, or its the result of something else.

Last question - it's been my "intuitive guess" that drawing long arcs out of a topload actually decreases the impedence in the primary circuit allowing more current to flow through the MOSFETS. They nearly always blow when I'm trying to do some goofy arc effect.

Is this true?
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dingo27
Mon Nov 22 2010, 05:54PM
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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for socket use something like
28450

It adds little inductance though, so best bet is to get those metal parts out and solder it straight to pcb if it is possible.
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Steve Hobley
Mon Nov 22 2010, 06:08PM
Steve Hobley Registered Member #1731 Joined: Thu Oct 02 2008, 02:22PM
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Genius! I wish I'd thought of that..
smile
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Tesla Fan
Mon Nov 22 2010, 06:29PM
Tesla Fan Registered Member #3353 Joined: Sat Oct 23 2010, 11:21PM
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Hi,

did you tried any other MOSFETs like IRFP150, IRFP260 or IPP05CN10N, MTY100N10E or some IGBT?
Just curious about the result... confused
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Steve Hobley
Mon Nov 22 2010, 06:38PM
Steve Hobley Registered Member #1731 Joined: Thu Oct 02 2008, 02:22PM
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I found a place on ebay that would sell me 10 of the 260s - they will arrive in a day or two.
I'll definitely be trying them out when they get here.

I'm still a bit concerned about the charge on the case/heatsink. Surely this cannot be avoided?
The Mosfets heatsink is actually connected to one of the pins (I forget which) so I have been using an electrical insulator when I mount them

I think that the 260s are insulated.
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dingo27
Mon Nov 22 2010, 07:05PM
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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usually drain is on tab and middle pin, they are never isolated.

i dont understand how you can get a shock with grounded object, still if you do, i would not simply touch it :) Check grounding, or remove it and put -U on it.
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