Chemistry Project Ideas
Jim, Thu May 18 2006, 03:00AMI need a topic for my project, I was thinking of some sort of synthesis, polyesther or something.. Any ideas?
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
..., Thu May 18 2006, 05:08AM
I think we start out project next week, although what it is is still a mystery... This is the first year our school has required us to show up after the ap test, had I done this class last year (accursed counselors that wouldn't let a freshman into ap chem) I wouldn't have had to show up unti 9
In any case...
There is always nylon... Sorta easy though...
A assume they wont let you do anything that goes bang?
Perhaps electrolysing something fun, like NaOH?
Could you do the aspirin synthesis, or did you already do that?
Something to do with equilibrium? Like the NO2/N2O4?
..., Thu May 18 2006, 05:08AM
I think we start out project next week, although what it is is still a mystery... This is the first year our school has required us to show up after the ap test, had I done this class last year (accursed counselors that wouldn't let a freshman into ap chem) I wouldn't have had to show up unti 9
In any case...
There is always nylon... Sorta easy though...
A assume they wont let you do anything that goes bang?
Perhaps electrolysing something fun, like NaOH?
Could you do the aspirin synthesis, or did you already do that?
Something to do with equilibrium? Like the NO2/N2O4?
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
cbfull, Thu May 18 2006, 02:10PM
Nylon tends to get frowned upon because one of the ingredients is extremely toxic.
Are you sure you want to do a synthesis? Why don't you try something simpler, but gets amazing reactions from people, and that is ferrofluid.
Look for the ferrofluid threads and there is a link to a very nice detailed synthesis.
cbfull, Thu May 18 2006, 02:10PM
Jim wrote ...
I need a topic for my project, I was thinking of some sort of synthesis, polyesther or something.. Any ideas?
Well, I can tell you that polyester (I assume you mean the resin?) is not all that easy to synthesize. I have made quite a few resins, and they require high temps for long times, and there is also a distillate that will be generated, and of course you have to be very careful that you stop it the right time or you can end up with a solid chunk of resin in your cooker, never to be removed.I need a topic for my project, I was thinking of some sort of synthesis, polyesther or something.. Any ideas?
Nylon tends to get frowned upon because one of the ingredients is extremely toxic.
Are you sure you want to do a synthesis? Why don't you try something simpler, but gets amazing reactions from people, and that is ferrofluid.
Look for the ferrofluid threads and there is a link to a very nice detailed synthesis.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Jim, Thu May 18 2006, 07:23PM
Ferrofluid is about as interesting as spitting in your hand. Now, I think I'm going to have to go with nylon, pathetic as it may be.
Jim, Thu May 18 2006, 07:23PM
Ferrofluid is about as interesting as spitting in your hand. Now, I think I'm going to have to go with nylon, pathetic as it may be.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Madgyver, Thu May 18 2006, 07:35PM
At least spitting in you hand brings luck.
Madgyver, Thu May 18 2006, 07:35PM
At least spitting in you hand brings luck.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
ragnar, Thu May 18 2006, 09:14PM
Not for Jim. Hey, why don't you breathe some more fire for Chem..?
ragnar, Thu May 18 2006, 09:14PM
Not for Jim. Hey, why don't you breathe some more fire for Chem..?
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Simon, Fri May 19 2006, 03:36AM
And off-topic posts bring mod comments.
Not all of us here know what level you have in mind for the project. Is it this AP? What's AP?
Simon, Fri May 19 2006, 03:36AM
Madgyver wrote ...
At least spitting in you hand brings luck.
At least spitting in you hand brings luck.
And off-topic posts bring mod comments.
Not all of us here know what level you have in mind for the project. Is it this AP? What's AP?
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
..., Fri May 19 2006, 05:12AM
Not to second guess you Simon, but I think anyone that read the "AP CHEM" thread knows that this is for AP chem...
In any case...
Is it a sign that the thermite thread is right under this one
I would have to agree with the ferro fluid comment, sorta trickey but dooable and fun to play with...
..., Fri May 19 2006, 05:12AM
Not to second guess you Simon, but I think anyone that read the "AP CHEM" thread knows that this is for AP chem...
In any case...
Is it a sign that the thermite thread is right under this one
I would have to agree with the ferro fluid comment, sorta trickey but dooable and fun to play with...
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
cbfull, Sat May 20 2006, 01:03AM
I don't think making nylon is pathetic at all, in fact it's an amazing demonstration if you can get an interface between the two liquids and wind a good amount of polymer out of this interface. I just worry that everone has seen it, but not everone has seen ferrofluid, and I have asked some of my fellow engineers about it and they have never heard of it.
Here is a pdf for the best synthesis document I have found. My Acrobat Reader is not working right now so I apologize if this is the wrong link.
cbfull, Sat May 20 2006, 01:03AM
I don't think making nylon is pathetic at all, in fact it's an amazing demonstration if you can get an interface between the two liquids and wind a good amount of polymer out of this interface. I just worry that everone has seen it, but not everone has seen ferrofluid, and I have asked some of my fellow engineers about it and they have never heard of it.
Here is a pdf for the best synthesis document I have found. My Acrobat Reader is not working right now so I apologize if this is the wrong link.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Coyote Wilde, Sat May 20 2006, 01:53AM
Not that Nylon wouldn't work, but how 'bout something even more impressive, that they likely haven't seen-- gemstones!
The Flame Fusion process, at least on paper, seems simple enough: silicon (for quartz) or aluminum oxide (for corundrum) dust is finely drizzled through a flame or electric arc, melting it. It's then pooled on a rotating earthenware rod, and voila! Crystal.
OK, so you're not reacting anything with anything else, but crystalization is still in the relms of chemistry, last I checked, and I'm not sure if the process can go fast enough to make any kind of meaningful demo, but I thought I'd toss it out there. I aim to give this one a shot myself ('s the only way, I suspect, my luv will accept synthetic gems
)
Knowing it's for AP-chem from the first thread does not give non-American readers much of a clue what AP-chem actually IS, mind you. Senior level High School? Advanced Placement? Sure, we could google it... but a little background never hurt any, either.
Coyote Wilde, Sat May 20 2006, 01:53AM
Not that Nylon wouldn't work, but how 'bout something even more impressive, that they likely haven't seen-- gemstones!
The Flame Fusion process, at least on paper, seems simple enough: silicon (for quartz) or aluminum oxide (for corundrum) dust is finely drizzled through a flame or electric arc, melting it. It's then pooled on a rotating earthenware rod, and voila! Crystal.
OK, so you're not reacting anything with anything else, but crystalization is still in the relms of chemistry, last I checked, and I'm not sure if the process can go fast enough to make any kind of meaningful demo, but I thought I'd toss it out there. I aim to give this one a shot myself ('s the only way, I suspect, my luv will accept synthetic gems
)Knowing it's for AP-chem from the first thread does not give non-American readers much of a clue what AP-chem actually IS, mind you. Senior level High School? Advanced Placement? Sure, we could google it... but a little background never hurt any, either.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
..., Sat May 20 2006, 02:18AM
AP chemistry is a class you take at high school that is designed to emulate a intro level college chemistry class. In fact if you pass the test at the end of the year most colleges will give you the credits for your first year of chem
here is its website
..., Sat May 20 2006, 02:18AM
AP chemistry is a class you take at high school that is designed to emulate a intro level college chemistry class. In fact if you pass the test at the end of the year most colleges will give you the credits for your first year of chem
here is its website
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Electroholic, Sat May 20 2006, 07:28PM
flame fusion is a very simple idea, but its not something you can do in a lab.
now if you still want to do somehing with fire, i will tell you what i did.
Fireworks!
gun powder and all the colorful ions.
it's going into physics and a bit quantum,
but my teacher was too impressed to care. lol
now mind you, if you are going to burn some salt.
dont' ever use that nichrome wire trick, it sux.
instead, dissolve the salt in water, make a farely concentrated solution,
dip a strip of filter paper in it, then burn it(while its still wet).
water will protect the paper so it won't burn, but it offer a very large surface area for the ions to comeout.
Electroholic, Sat May 20 2006, 07:28PM
flame fusion is a very simple idea, but its not something you can do in a lab.
now if you still want to do somehing with fire, i will tell you what i did.
Fireworks!
gun powder and all the colorful ions.
it's going into physics and a bit quantum,
but my teacher was too impressed to care. lol
now mind you, if you are going to burn some salt.
dont' ever use that nichrome wire trick, it sux.
instead, dissolve the salt in water, make a farely concentrated solution,
dip a strip of filter paper in it, then burn it(while its still wet).
water will protect the paper so it won't burn, but it offer a very large surface area for the ions to comeout.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Simon, Sun May 21 2006, 06:03AM
Ah, now I understand more.
I just grabbed my old 1st year Chem lab book. Frankly, most of the experiments weren't exciting, especially to watch.
We made aspirin.
We made some ionic complexes that looked pretty.
Ferrofluid production seems like a complicated enough procedure with an interesting product.
Simon, Sun May 21 2006, 06:03AM
Ah, now I understand more.
I just grabbed my old 1st year Chem lab book. Frankly, most of the experiments weren't exciting, especially to watch.
We made aspirin.
We made some ionic complexes that looked pretty.
Ferrofluid production seems like a complicated enough procedure with an interesting product.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Michael W., Sun May 21 2006, 02:14PM
I made ferrofluid in my chem 12 class, but since it didn't explode up or catch fire no one really cared...
Michael W., Sun May 21 2006, 02:14PM
I made ferrofluid in my chem 12 class, but since it didn't explode up or catch fire no one really cared...
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Eric, Mon May 22 2006, 01:41AM
Making rayon the old cupric ammonium complex way might be an interesting demo. Unusual anyway. Not too different than the nylon idea though.
Eric, Mon May 22 2006, 01:41AM
Making rayon the old cupric ammonium complex way might be an interesting demo. Unusual anyway. Not too different than the nylon idea though.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
..., Wed May 24 2006, 04:56AM
Not to end this too far off topic, but our project for a chem is...
Type up procedures and make lab kits for the kids next year!
^me
..., Wed May 24 2006, 04:56AM
Not to end this too far off topic, but our project for a chem is...
Type up procedures and make lab kits for the kids next year!
^me
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Jim, Wed May 24 2006, 05:41PM
That's really....
yeah.
Jim, Wed May 24 2006, 05:41PM
That's really....
yeah.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Bored Chemist, Wed May 24 2006, 06:24PM
"Type up procedures and make lab kits for the kids next year!"
Have fun putting in the deliberate mistakes.
Bored Chemist, Wed May 24 2006, 06:24PM
"Type up procedures and make lab kits for the kids next year!"
Have fun putting in the deliberate mistakes.
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
IamSmooth, Mon Sept 18 2006, 11:30PM
what about making luminol, or is organic out of the question?
IamSmooth, Mon Sept 18 2006, 11:30PM
what about making luminol, or is organic out of the question?
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
..., Sun Oct 01 2006, 07:06AM
well I will forgive you for posting this almost exactly 4 months after the project...
You have to work with whatever they have in the stockroom...
..., Sun Oct 01 2006, 07:06AM
well I will forgive you for posting this almost exactly 4 months after the project...
You have to work with whatever they have in the stockroom...
Re: Chemistry Project Ideas
Simon, Sun Oct 01 2006, 11:10PM
Reading the past five posts and the datestamps on them I've come to a conclusion:
This thread needs to die, badly.
Locked.
Simon, Sun Oct 01 2006, 11:10PM
Reading the past five posts and the datestamps on them I've come to a conclusion:
This thread needs to die, badly.
Locked.
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