April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank

ShawnLG, Sun Apr 01 2007, 05:52AM

I got you guys good, thats if you did not notice the oddness of the picture in my "RGTC first light" thread. The "high voltage lab" was staged. cheesey

The TC is real, but it's actual size and specs where lied about.

The real specs and pictures:
Secondary:
350~ turns unknown gauge
3.5 cm tall
1 cm diameter
Topload:
3.2 cm diameter by .8 cm high
Primary:
4 turns conical 18 gauge
Tank cap:
4 * 1500v metallized film capacitors in series with 1/2 watt 10 Mohm bleeders. Unknown capacitance (I should of written the value down somewhere before gluing the whole thing together! cry )
Rotary:
1.6 cm diameter disk with four electrodes
5 mm diameter pager motor used
Power supply:
7kv air ionizer power supply. 2.4 watts was measured at PS input at full power.
Adhesives used during assembly:
Solder (conductive joints)
Wood glue (wooded joints)
hot glue (non wooded joints)
Pictures:
1 The stage
2 Early prototype
3 Primery & secondary
4 MMC bank with resistors and chokes
5 Rotary front view
6 Rotary back view
7 Rotary module complete
8 MMC in it's new home
9 Everything installed
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdgghtMp1sQ


1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Stage

1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Earlyprototype

1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Primesec

1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Mmc

1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Rsg Front

1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Rsg Back

1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Rotery

1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Housing

1175406675 286 FT0 Mtc Almostcomplete
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Ken M., Sun Apr 01 2007, 06:08AM

*Applaude* Very nice I never clicked the link so I just figured it was a full sized coil, but we'll done
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
..., Sun Apr 01 2007, 06:45AM

wow, that is pretty amazing. I love the craftsmanship! Now try making that coil work solid state tongue

Funny you should use a air ioniser supply for it, I just installed a pair of whole house electrostatic air cleaners (to replace the 1 we had pre remodel) and was thinking that board would make a sweet power supply. Too bad they cost over a thousand bux new...

Reminds me of my very first coil, 3cc syringe with about 100 turns of 32awg wire, a 5 turn helical primary, powered by a 20w plasma globe supply rectified with a big string of sf1600 diodes, and going into a micro mmc of 3 strings of 4 series .22nf 5kv ceramic caps, with a spark gap made of 2 wood screws screwed into a piece of 1/2" pvc pipe. About the same spark output. Unfortunately my digicam came afer its creation...
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Steve Ward, Sun Apr 01 2007, 07:45AM

Hehe, good one. You really played "newbie" quite well (especially the thing about the cap, but the secondary dimensions were good too, and the lack of details in the first post).
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
gentoo_daemon, Sun Apr 01 2007, 03:17PM

yes, very good.
I was thinking that the bottle on the first picture was kind of strange, and there was a giant piece of solder laying on the floor. If you had that up on ebay, I bet people would have bid on it.
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
ShawnLG, Sun Apr 01 2007, 03:47PM

"Now try making that coil work solid state "

This would be very difficult, since I do not have any SSTC experience. I have three IRFR220A in the I-PAK size case that could be used.

"Hehe, good one. You really played "newbie" quite well (especially the thing about the cap, but the secondary dimensions were good too, and the lack of details in the first post)."

I had a hard time coming up with plausible specs for that spoof.
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Tom540, Sun Apr 01 2007, 05:09PM

HAHA that's awesome. Nice work. You shoulda made a follow up pic saying" I think I got it tuned" and then had the whole garage filled with 10' sparks. Well what would appear to be 10' sparks.
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Electroholic, Sun Apr 01 2007, 09:18PM

Damn you got me good, nice one!
cool garage+coil setup.
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Avalanche, Sun Apr 01 2007, 09:47PM

very good, you got me with that one too cheesey

I never viewed the photo full size either, but I did notice the topload looked a bit odd.
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
hvguy, Mon Apr 02 2007, 03:24AM

I was a little curious about the pic. It was the bottle on the left that gave it away. Very good job though, I though it was odd but didn’t connect the dots. Cool little coil!
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Brett Miller, Mon Apr 02 2007, 04:03AM

ShawnLG

That's great! Hands down the best thing about the prank was the fact that you pulled off the scam with the scale difference fakery on the "staged HV lab". I love it!

-Brett
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Marko, Mon Apr 02 2007, 06:04PM

Beautiful shawn... I saw something not_alright, and then I recognized the HDD ring on top..
Very cleverly done cheesey

Any ideas for some bigger arcs out of it..?
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
ShawnLG, Mon Apr 02 2007, 06:21PM

"Any ideas for some bigger arcs out of it..?"

Since the coil is only using 2.4 watts. I could put more current into it for more BPS. The streamers should grow longer. I would need to build a power supply to do this.
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Part Scavenger, Wed Apr 04 2007, 11:46PM

Got me too, that's pretty awesome Shawn!
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
Bored Chemist, Fri Apr 06 2007, 11:57AM

Well, if you get bored of HV you can get a job making doll's house furniture.
It also puts a new meaning to Electroholic's comment about it.
"tank cap is way too small."
Sure is.
Re: April fools fellow 4HVers. (RGTC first light) prank
ShawnLG, Fri Apr 06 2007, 02:05PM

"Well, if you get bored of HV you can get a job making doll's house furniture."

Yea right. I can make tesla coils for doll houses. Barbie would just love it.