Report all forum problems here
Bjørn, Wed Dec 12 2018, 08:37AMThe forum software had to be updated because of mandatory system upgrades, this has left the forum in a partially broken state and it will take some time to get it fixed.
Please post any problems you may notice so it will be easier to find and fix them.
Re: Report all forum problems here
klugesmith, Thu Dec 13 2018, 08:04PM
Thank you for taking care of our forum for so many years.
For past week or more:
image thumbnails in old posts don't link to the full size images. Would be very sad if the full size images have been lost.
For past couple days:
Can't upload images. Dialog prints a list of acceptable file types, and the list is empty.
More specific examples can be given if you want.
klugesmith, Thu Dec 13 2018, 08:04PM
Thank you for taking care of our forum for so many years.
For past week or more:
image thumbnails in old posts don't link to the full size images. Would be very sad if the full size images have been lost.
For past couple days:
Can't upload images. Dialog prints a list of acceptable file types, and the list is empty.
More specific examples can be given if you want.
Re: Report all forum problems here
Bjørn, Fri Dec 14 2018, 02:59PM
There are backups of the pictures so they should be possible to restore.
Specific examples would be helpful. Examples in the form "I did x, I expected y but got z" will make it easier to get everything updated correctly.
Current list of problems:
1. After posting a reply the Forums pane is blank instead of showing the end of the thread or the forum page the thread belongs in.
2. Can't edit my own or anyone else's posts, but sometimes it works with no clear pattern.
3. When I try to delete a thread I get a dual language pop-up that says:
"På 4hv.org står det
Are you sure?
OK | Avbryt"
When I click OK the thread is deleted.
4. For past week or more: image thumbnails in old posts don't link to the full size images. Would be very sad if the full size images have been lost.
5. For past couple days: Can't upload images. Dialog prints a list of acceptable file types, and the list is empty.
Bjørn, Fri Dec 14 2018, 02:59PM
There are backups of the pictures so they should be possible to restore.
Specific examples would be helpful. Examples in the form "I did x, I expected y but got z" will make it easier to get everything updated correctly.
Current list of problems:
1. After posting a reply the Forums pane is blank instead of showing the end of the thread or the forum page the thread belongs in.
2. Can't edit my own or anyone else's posts, but sometimes it works with no clear pattern.
3. When I try to delete a thread I get a dual language pop-up that says:
"På 4hv.org står det
Are you sure?
OK | Avbryt"
When I click OK the thread is deleted.
4. For past week or more: image thumbnails in old posts don't link to the full size images. Would be very sad if the full size images have been lost.
5. For past couple days: Can't upload images. Dialog prints a list of acceptable file types, and the list is empty.
Re: Report all forum problems here
DerAlbi, Wed Dec 19 2018, 10:54PM
1) When you take very long to write an answer, the "Post a reply" button in the bottom center does not work.
One has to Copy to Clipboard the text, then reload the page, paste the text, and then the button does its job.
2) On top of the first post on every page, there is "LAN_403" text
3) i am personally really pissed off by the captcha during login. It is case sensitive and it drives me crazy. There is no way to distinguish capital V from v or X from x or C from c or O from 0.. and the worst thing is, that you have to type in your login data again - because of a captcha that you never had a chance to solve. hate it. If it is really necessary, use a different database. Or save the login data.
4) i do not find a way to contact members via PMs. I think the button is gone.
[Edit spelling]
5) Hehe. After editing, the note that i edited the post, did not show. (to me)
DerAlbi, Wed Dec 19 2018, 10:54PM
1) When you take very long to write an answer, the "Post a reply" button in the bottom center does not work.
One has to Copy to Clipboard the text, then reload the page, paste the text, and then the button does its job.
2) On top of the first post on every page, there is "LAN_403" text
3) i am personally really pissed off by the captcha during login. It is case sensitive and it drives me crazy. There is no way to distinguish capital V from v or X from x or C from c or O from 0.. and the worst thing is, that you have to type in your login data again - because of a captcha that you never had a chance to solve. hate it. If it is really necessary, use a different database. Or save the login data.
4) i do not find a way to contact members via PMs. I think the button is gone.
[Edit spelling]
5) Hehe. After editing, the note that i edited the post, did not show. (to me)
Re: Report all forum problems here
Justin, Thu Dec 20 2018, 12:57AM
The new topics listed here all redirect back to the main index page.
Justin, Thu Dec 20 2018, 12:57AM
The new topics listed here all redirect back to the main index page.
Re: Report all forum problems here
klugesmith, Sun Dec 23 2018, 01:34AM
Let's try posting a picture today.
"Attach file(s) / image(s)". Browse... select file. Its name.jpg appears next to Browse button. Click Preview ... no thumbnail in preview, no image stuff here in composition box.
At least the Edit button works!
We have seen a few people include images using more basic methods, but that practice is discouraged for very good reasons. Not only because in-line images should be small (unless reader clicks on them). They should be on 4hv.org server, so readers a year later don't get broken links.
Uhhh ... but all links to old images on the server have been broken for the past few weeks. I wish you best of luck getting that fixed, maybe after end-of-year demands in real life.
For me too, the captchas typicallly require more than one attempt. But the captchas are a much smaller problem than the new image and old image problems.
klugesmith, Sun Dec 23 2018, 01:34AM
Let's try posting a picture today.
"Attach file(s) / image(s)". Browse... select file. Its name.jpg appears next to Browse button. Click Preview ... no thumbnail in preview, no image stuff here in composition box.
At least the Edit button works!
We have seen a few people include images using more basic methods, but that practice is discouraged for very good reasons. Not only because in-line images should be small (unless reader clicks on them). They should be on 4hv.org server, so readers a year later don't get broken links.
Uhhh ... but all links to old images on the server have been broken for the past few weeks. I wish you best of luck getting that fixed, maybe after end-of-year demands in real life.
For me too, the captchas typicallly require more than one attempt. But the captchas are a much smaller problem than the new image and old image problems.
Re: Report all forum problems here
hen918, Sun Dec 23 2018, 04:48PM
After logging in a few times, I've concluded that the captchas aren't broken, just really difficult. They frequently have shaded bits that are part of the code, like something that turns out to be an "f" when zoomed in looks like a "t" otherwise, because the curl at the top is in a very light grey. Ctrl-scroll is the way to go to get it right first time.
Edit: Also, after posting the message field is blank where it used to say "Success!" Making it difficult to know it worked.
hen918, Sun Dec 23 2018, 04:48PM
After logging in a few times, I've concluded that the captchas aren't broken, just really difficult. They frequently have shaded bits that are part of the code, like something that turns out to be an "f" when zoomed in looks like a "t" otherwise, because the curl at the top is in a very light grey. Ctrl-scroll is the way to go to get it right first time.
Edit: Also, after posting the message field is blank where it used to say "Success!" Making it difficult to know it worked.
Re: Report all forum problems here
Patrick, Tue Dec 25 2018, 01:24AM
im hoping you guys get it all back up and running in the next few weeks. ive got new important progress and questions.
Ill be donating money too, havent done that in awhile.
EDIT : it appears the Paypal button leads to a broken paypal page.
Patrick, Tue Dec 25 2018, 01:24AM
im hoping you guys get it all back up and running in the next few weeks. ive got new important progress and questions.
Ill be donating money too, havent done that in awhile.
EDIT : it appears the Paypal button leads to a broken paypal page.
Re: Report all forum problems here
Avalanche, Sat Dec 29 2018, 01:26PM
On top of everything else, I can't access old PMs - in fact it appears that the entire private messaging system has just vanished.
Avalanche, Sat Dec 29 2018, 01:26PM
On top of everything else, I can't access old PMs - in fact it appears that the entire private messaging system has just vanished.
Re: Report all forum problems here
Hazmatt_(The Underdog), Sat Jan 05 2019, 12:20AM
i cant post pics... but .. its no big deal really.... no rush on my behalf.
For the pics, under "Please Note", you have "Allowed file types: ", did anyone specify the allowed types in the server software?
If no type is specified, its going to delete all types instantly, so someone needs to specify jpegs or png or something.
Hazmatt_(The Underdog), Sat Jan 05 2019, 12:20AM
i cant post pics... but .. its no big deal really.... no rush on my behalf.
For the pics, under "Please Note", you have "Allowed file types: ", did anyone specify the allowed types in the server software?
If no type is specified, its going to delete all types instantly, so someone needs to specify jpegs or png or something.
Re: Report all forum problems here
Conundrum, Thu Jan 17 2019, 07:38AM
The CAPTCHA problem appears fixed, thanks!
Also any news on the chat room?
Conundrum, Thu Jan 17 2019, 07:38AM
The CAPTCHA problem appears fixed, thanks!
Also any news on the chat room?
Re: Report all forum problems here
klugesmith, Fri Feb 01 2019, 01:25AM
Bjorn et al, do you have plans to fix the posting-images problem within the next few weeks or months? Would contributions of money help?
Thanks!
klugesmith, Fri Feb 01 2019, 01:25AM
Bjorn et al, do you have plans to fix the posting-images problem within the next few weeks or months? Would contributions of money help?
Thanks!
Re: Report all forum problems here
Patrick, Fri Feb 01 2019, 05:35AM
yes ive been trying to send money too. but the paypal button is broken.
Patrick, Fri Feb 01 2019, 05:35AM
yes ive been trying to send money too. but the paypal button is broken.
Re: Report all forum problems here
Bjørn, Sat Feb 02 2019, 10:22AM
There are plans to fix it but the only sensible solution is to replace the forum software and that is quite a lot of work to do properly. Chris is doing all the work and he is very busy. Donations always help, it will probably not do much to speed up the process unless the sum is quite large.
Bjørn, Sat Feb 02 2019, 10:22AM
There are plans to fix it but the only sensible solution is to replace the forum software and that is quite a lot of work to do properly. Chris is doing all the work and he is very busy. Donations always help, it will probably not do much to speed up the process unless the sum is quite large.
Re: Report all forum problems here
Patrick, Sat Feb 02 2019, 05:04PM
what is a "quite large sum".
Patrick, Sat Feb 02 2019, 05:04PM
what is a "quite large sum".
Re: Report all forum problems here
Bjørn, Mon Feb 04 2019, 01:44PM
This is the closest guess I can make... To create the required free time then it would have to replace the money lost by not working on something else. So if it takes a few weeks of work to fix the forum, what would it cost to hire someone to do that kind of work full time for a few weeks?
Bjørn, Mon Feb 04 2019, 01:44PM
This is the closest guess I can make... To create the required free time then it would have to replace the money lost by not working on something else. So if it takes a few weeks of work to fix the forum, what would it cost to hire someone to do that kind of work full time for a few weeks?
Re: Report all forum problems here
klugesmith, Wed Feb 06 2019, 01:31AM
Thank you, forum administrators, for your volunteer time.
When we get easy pictures again, it will be icing on the cake.
-Richard
klugesmith, Wed Feb 06 2019, 01:31AM
Thank you, forum administrators, for your volunteer time.
When we get easy pictures again, it will be icing on the cake.
-Richard
Re: Report all forum problems here
Patrick, Wed Feb 06 2019, 05:10AM
yes certainly, i dont want to seem ungrateful. this has never been a profitable venture for anyone.
thats why im thinking to get the pictures back we users could band together and fund a professional web "fixer" for this one time need. indiegogo, go fund me, or the pay pal link.
Patrick, Wed Feb 06 2019, 05:10AM
yes certainly, i dont want to seem ungrateful. this has never been a profitable venture for anyone.
thats why im thinking to get the pictures back we users could band together and fund a professional web "fixer" for this one time need. indiegogo, go fund me, or the pay pal link.
Re: Report all forum problems here
klugesmith, Mon Apr 22 2019, 01:34AM
It's been almost three more months without inline pictures, except for doing it the hard way.
Makes me very sad, although plain text in English can certainly get our messages through.
Pictures can replace a lot of words, and add richness to the forum experience.
Are any administrators, or technically savvy volunteers, seeing light at the end of the tunnel?
What are the chances that familiar functionality (until about six months ago) will come back within the next six months?
For better or worse, my own visits and posts have been much less frequent than in previous years.
Subjectively, it looks like I am not alone in that behavior.
Do 4hv traffic statistics show the signature of a once-vibrant forum that's now circling the drain?
p.s. IMHO, the captcha challenge is minor compared to the Attach file(s) / image(s) dialog
whose list of "Allowed file types" is empty.
klugesmith, Mon Apr 22 2019, 01:34AM
It's been almost three more months without inline pictures, except for doing it the hard way.
Makes me very sad, although plain text in English can certainly get our messages through.
Pictures can replace a lot of words, and add richness to the forum experience.
Are any administrators, or technically savvy volunteers, seeing light at the end of the tunnel?
What are the chances that familiar functionality (until about six months ago) will come back within the next six months?
For better or worse, my own visits and posts have been much less frequent than in previous years.
Subjectively, it looks like I am not alone in that behavior.
Do 4hv traffic statistics show the signature of a once-vibrant forum that's now circling the drain?
p.s. IMHO, the captcha challenge is minor compared to the Attach file(s) / image(s) dialog
whose list of "Allowed file types" is empty.
Re: Report all forum problems here
Patrick, Mon Apr 22 2019, 06:16PM
i think a "go fund me" is in order, i cant donate using the normal button.
Patrick, Mon Apr 22 2019, 06:16PM
i think a "go fund me" is in order, i cant donate using the normal button.
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