SiC Tesla Coil

loneoceans, Tue Jun 07 2016, 05:40AM

Hello Coilers,

I've built several coils of different sizes ranging from small systems to some rather large ones. Large coils are typically impressive when running at high power, but they pose several logistical challenges in terms of building them, storing them, running them and setting them up (and not to mention, they're pretty expensive!). Because of this this, I've been working on building smaller coils, and it has been quite a lot of fun! Turns out, building physically small coils has its own set of challenges associated with them as well.

As some of you might have seen earlier, one of my recent small builds was my tinyQCW coil (see: Link2 This was my first real attempt to make a really small yet high performance Tesla Coil. This ended up to be quite successful, with the coil producing sparks ~13x its secondary length (of 2.4 inches), and it convinced me that small coils can also be pretty cool shades.

There are two main problems with small coils: (1) they typically make small sparks and (2) due to their physically small geometry, and while keeping the coil still reasonably easy to construct by hand, their resonant frequencies have to be higher. This makes the power electronics more challenging to construct! This project aims to take a look at these two problems. smile

Though I have been quite busy with other things, I've put some thought in this project for a while so I thought I'll create a thread to share the progress as it goes along.

There has been talk about what will be the next new thing in coiling, and one of them is the advent of some new transistor technology - in this case, Silicon Carbide FETs. These have been in the market for a while now but they have pretty expensive... until recently. So despite them already laying the foundation for next-gen power inverters in the industry, as far as I am aware, SiC hasn't made its way yet into a SSTC yet.

SiC provides some very appealing characteristics for high frequency coils, specifically their extremely fast operation, higher operating temperature, very low Rds, and extremely low (but more complex) gate drive, among other nuanced things such as the rather poor intrinsic diode performance in the SiC transistor (this will require some more complex drive schemes like synchronous rectification but more on that to come later). So I decided to make a SiC based Tesla Coil.

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Note: for size comparison, the fan is a 60mm fan.

Above shows my attempt at this new SiC Tesla Coil. The board is fully integrated allowing mains operation 240VAC in. It is possible to make an even smaller design by making it more modular and removing the bus caps (and driving say via a LiPo battery pack which has been executed brilliantly by Steve and forms much of the basis of inspiration of this project), simplifying the gate drive (I probably have an over-kill gate drive!) and also going to a 4 layer board, but the result is still quite small and about the size of a scientific calculator. The board features fully isolated discrete +15 -3V gate drive for all FETs with programmable dead time, integrated power supplies, on-board CT and a full bridge of 900V 35A (90Apk) SiC FETs each with its own live heat-sink.

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The main board contains the power section, gate drive and supplies, but it needs a driver. Control is provided via a very tiny driver daughter-board running a PSoC, and provides a bunch of different IO, gate drive signals, and CT feedback. The modular design allows for future more advanced controllers to be simply plugged in. Despite it's small size (1/3 the size of a UD2! or so!), it is in fact a fully-featured driver and even has 4 feedback LEDs and RS422 / Fiber communication as well as temperature sensing, UVLO, and fan power control plus a few other GPIO for future expansion. This was adopted from the very fine work done by Steve and Philip so big credit to them.

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Putting it all together, it looks like this (the header pins on the driver board are flipped, they should be pointing downwards). Despite its small size, it should be capable of similar power operation to my QCW 2 coil, yet being able to completely fit inside a small box, including the toroid, with a designed operating frequency of around 800kHz or so. Hopefully, making a high frequency QCW will also yield valuable insights!

More to come soon once I get the coil constructed and the boards soldered up. Hopefully, this will achieve the goal of a really small table-top coil, yet producing pretty big sparks, hopefully something like 2 feet or more. We'll see what happens!
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
nzoomed, Tue Jun 07 2016, 06:45AM

Looks awesome Loneoceans!

I might have a go at a smaller coil once ive finished mine.
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
Graham Armitage, Tue Jun 07 2016, 11:56AM

This is very cool. Was thinking about doing a small desk-top coil for my next project. maybe SiC is the way to go. Thanks for sharing - look forward to seeing how this works out.
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
hen918, Tue Jun 07 2016, 05:14PM

loneoceans wrote ...

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the rather poor intrinsic diode performance in the SiC transistor (this will require some more complex drive schemes like synchronous rectification but more on that to come later)
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Or you could just put a SiC diode in anti-parallel with them...

Oh, and brilliant work by the way!
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
loneoceans, Tue Jun 07 2016, 06:55PM

hen918 wrote ...

Or you could just put a SiC diode in anti-parallel with them...

Oh, and brilliant work by the way!

That's right, but it was an active decision to leave them out to maintain the small size, to ease layout on a 2 layer board (would have been so much easier on a 4!) and also forces me to come up with more advanced and fun drive techniques, which is a lot easier with discrete gate drive smile
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
Netzpfuscher, Wed Jun 08 2016, 06:25AM

Is the code on the psoc5 open source? I have a psoc5LP dev-board at home, perhaps i can use this board to pimp my old drsstc.
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
Uspring, Wed Jun 08 2016, 09:46AM

Very nice build, Guangyan smile
Moreover new territory, AFAIK now one ever has built a 800kHz QCW coil. I expect thick arcs, possibly you can grow them faster and still keep them straight.

Re: SiC Tesla Coil
Mads Barnkob, Tue Jun 14 2016, 09:04PM

Looking forward to see the results of this project, it is already high class from just the 3D :)

I do however already feel left many years behind with my love for DIP components.
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
nzoomed, Thu Jun 16 2016, 01:57AM

Mads Barnkob wrote ...

Looking forward to see the results of this project, it is already high class from just the 3D :)

I do however already feel left many years behind with my love for DIP components.

Long live DIP!

SMD is OK, but i hate soldering the stuff.

I dont want to face the assembly of my next UD board! It took many hours and evenings doing a little bit at a time! lol
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
Hydron, Thu Jun 16 2016, 08:34PM

Once you learn to work with SMD you'll never look back!
(OK, 0402 and smaller gets painful, but anything larger is _FASTER_ to solder than through hole, no pissing about bending leads and clipping them to length).
Even the leadless stuff isn't normally a big deal if you have hot air and some sort of magnification.
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
Justin, Thu Jun 16 2016, 10:15PM

Hydron wrote ...

Once you learn to work with SMD you'll never look back!
(OK, 0402 and smaller gets painful, but anything larger is _FASTER_ to solder than through hole, no pissing about bending leads and clipping them to length).
Even the leadless stuff isn't normally a big deal if you have hot air and some sort of magnification.

Poor eyesight or motor skills can make it a real pain though. I would definitely recommend good magnification if you can afford it.
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
Shrad, Fri Jun 17 2016, 08:04AM

soldering SMD is easy... put a blob on one pad, let it solidify, place SMD part against it and maintain with your pick tool or whatever, melt the blob so it sticks to the part, let it solidify again and solder the other pad(s)

if it is an IC, solder the first pin like that and carefully adjust position when melting solder again if it is not well positioned

that way you could solder SMD with a nail and a lighter ;)
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
loneoceans, Thu Nov 17 2016, 08:39PM

It's been a while but I finally had the chance to get working on this again, so I thought I'd post a quick update for people who might be interested. TL;DR - first (tiny) light has been achieved with the SiC on the bench with low bus voltages, so this officially makes sparks! Whether it works out as hoped in the end or turns out to be a massive fail, we'll find out as we go along!

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After designing the boards I had them fabricated. Next I soldered up the main boards and the controller. So far the boards look *ok* and I only had a very few bugs to fix, but for the most part, they turned out to be working with no major errors in layout :).

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Next was getting the firmware for the controller dialed in and to start basic bench testing. Main functionality seems to be working. For the initial test, I hooked it up to my QCW 2 resonator which has an operating frequency of around ~365kHz, to see if all aspects of the board are at least working as intended.

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After basic verification I applied power to the bridge and had the coil running on its own feedback.. it works! The coil started making small sparks with a bench power supply as the bus supply at ~20-30V. Next step would be to finish up the actual resonators for this small coil, and start pushing the frequencies and power up, and hope the FETs don't get too unhappy... confused
Re: SiC Tesla Coil
Enceladus, Mon Dec 06 2021, 03:14AM

You know how sometimes people will ask you "Where do you see yourself in the next 5 years?" ? Well, I'm actually more interested in where this project went in the LAST 5 years. Last post is such a cliffhanger.