Red Phosphorescence in Calcite

Inducktion, Fri May 15 2015, 02:06AM

Hiya guys;

Got some rock samples from the Oregon coast, and I believe they have calcite veins/crystals on them. They fizz really weakly with vinegar on them.

However when I take my 405 nm laser on them, they seem to glow a second after a deep red color. I looked it up and I'd like to try and figure out what's causing the deep red color.

Here's some pictures of the rocks.

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I know the last one has some Agate in it.

But what do you guys think? IF there's some more tests I can try to narrow it down more please suggest them!

[Edit: Oversize pictures]
Re: Red Phosphorescence in Calcite
loneoceans, Fri May 15 2015, 06:24PM

Many calcium compunds phosphoresce..
hm.. Calcium sulfide?
Re: Red Phosphorescence in Calcite
Bored Chemist, Fri May 15 2015, 10:34PM

Calcium sulphide is barely stable in air.
The colour of phosphorescence is strongly influenced by the impurities present.
Re: Red Phosphorescence in Calcite
Shrad, Mon May 18 2015, 08:27AM

for what I know, you are experiencing color centers

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Re: Red Phosphorescence in Calcite
Conundrum, Wed Sept 02 2015, 09:31PM

CaS:Eu:Cu or CaS:Mn could be responsible here, recently one of the large EL manufacturers patented a red material.
Any metal sulphide will luminesce to some extent so what you are seeing could be a combination of laser induced phosphorescence and triggering of absorbed light emission in a similar way to how ZnS:Cu brightens then dims under infrared light.

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Gwent in the UK sell this material, tried to get some but the postage is a bit high plus i only needed a tiny sample and the MOQ is in the 100 gram range.

Putting it in a low pressure helium atmosphere under electron bombardment would be a seriously cool experiment!

Re: Red Phosphorescence in Calcite
alan sailer, Tue Apr 19 2016, 09:25PM

As a side note to this discussion here is a link to a video showing calcite thermoluminescence. I am told by a good source that the effect comes from activation by radiation.

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Thermoluminescence can be used to date materials and is used in some types of radiation dosimeters.

Cheers..