Re: Blue Gene
Carbon_Rod, Mon Jan 07 2013, 09:59AM

One could simply incorporate Rat or Snail neurons to build a synthetic biological brain:


Many works of fiction have raised ethical questions of enslaving an intelligent being, and the possible metaphysical implications of editing our perceived imperfections.

A large number of humans already fail the Turing test...

Re: Blue Gene
Tetris, Mon Jan 07 2013, 11:04PM

Synthetic biological brain? Add it to an AI... oh god. GLaDOS!

Just don't actually put *intelligent* AIs in smartphones. Siri is creepy enough.

Re: Blue Gene
Daedronus, Tue Jan 08 2013, 12:11AM

I guess we will find out eventually if enough wires can give birth to sentience.
or not, because how can we be sure it really is sentient? intelligent is not the same thing as sentient.

Re: Blue Gene
Pinky's Brain, Tue Jan 08 2013, 12:27AM

How can I be sure I'm sentient?

Re: Blue Gene
Ash Small, Tue Jan 08 2013, 01:05AM


Would a non-sentient being ask this question?

Re: Blue Gene
Conundrum, Tue Jan 08 2013, 08:23AM

According to some theories the Universe is actually a simulation.
In which case this argument is moot

It does raise a valid question, if an AI occurs by accident does that massive supercomputer farm have the right to ask not to be switched off/etc ? Maybe transferring most of it to cold storage until the technology improves but leave its core running would be an acceptable halfway house.


-A

Re: Blue Gene
Ash Small, Tue Jan 08 2013, 11:33AM

Without getting too far into the theology, I think it takes more than just 'intelligence' to be sentient, after all, why do so many people ignore what their 'head' tells them, and make decicions based on 'how they feel'?

Re: Blue Gene
Conundrum, Mon Jan 30 2017, 07:14AM

The latest interesting news is that all those "waste" Note 7's are being bought up by the US Military for some black ops project involving the AI functionality (neural net) in the SoC.
I think what they are probably planning to do is strip off the chips and make a board stack with 1024 of them per PCB, or just make a custom jig to hold the boards with liquid cooling.

Re: Blue Gene
Ash Small, Sat Mar 04 2017, 04:08AM

I read something yesteday that said, and it had been replicated by three different teams, that our feelings can have a causal effect on the physical world. Photons would 'react' and align themselves with DNA that was 500 miles away from the donor, but the DNA would contract and relax according to the feelings of the donor, with no time lapse, and the photons would also do the same.

This suggests that 'sentience' is something we don't understand, and is removed from cognitive intelligence.

This suggests our soul is something that is tangible, but something we don't yet understand.

I wish I had some links As it was only yesterday that this was published on social media, the trail should still be warm

Re: Blue Gene
Conundrum, Mon Mar 06 2017, 04:18AM

Thanks for linking.
Also I had a fascinating discussion with someone a few days back regarding whether a machine can have a conscience. ie the "Three Laws" only provide a guideline and can't cover every possible scenario.
Would this be something that is hard coded into every AI like a low level operating system (I, Robot) or would it be emergent at some threshold level of complexity?

Re: Blue Gene
DerAlbi, Mon Mar 06 2017, 06:49PM

I find the original article from the start of the thread a bit bullshitty to be honest.
Having the power or the resources to compute something like a brain is worth nothing if the neural net does not have the according structure.
As flexible as the brain is, we are actually extremely hard wired.

To be honest, i think that the human ingenuity will fail for a long time creating a true AI until we realize how damn stupid humans actually are and until we start to build equally stupid machines - but no one will do that.
If you observe a newborn baby, the only thing a true engineer can say about it: worthless. Capable of nothing, dependent on everything and seemingly zero capacity for learning (short term), occasionally annoying as f*** and questionable sentient.
Yet everything about this observation is wrong if you wait for 20years.

So when we decide to build an AI... will we aim to imitate the mature brain, or should we try the babys blob of gooey biomass first?
I honestly think its the baby we need to aim for. Only from its capacity of learning will a mind come forth. But who wants to write the paper: "We built a pooping machine!"?

Re: Blue Gene
Conundrum, Tue Mar 07 2017, 06:15AM

This a valid point, however the current consensus is that an embryonic AI is going to take a few weeks to get through the "baby" stage.

Also who says we are going to build one? My laptop shows signs of self awareness, but on a cockroach level. In fact modifying the DDR3 SPD chips using a temperature sensor chip allows for AI functionality to be implemented on standard hardware.

Re: Blue Gene
Uspring, Tue Mar 07 2017, 10:24AM

DerAlbi wrote:

Having the power or the resources to compute something like a brain is worth nothing if the neural net does not have the according structure.

I couldn't agree more. It's like claiming "I've got the equivalent of a processor", when you are carrying a bag full of transistors.

Conundrum wrote:

This a valid point, however the current consensus is that an embryonic AI is going to take a few weeks to get through the "baby" stage.

I don't believe that anyone claims, that he instantiated a babies learning capabilities.