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Patrick
Fri Dec 10 2010, 07:57PM
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no you do it like this:

HV+ <----------/\/\/\/\/\/\--+--/\/\/\-----GND-----/\/ \/\--+--/\/\/\/\/\---------> HV-
| |
+<---------Vmeter--------- >+

it gives you half the error rate, and no corona on the meter, if youhave the meter on the high side you will get bogus data due to unequal e-field division
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Patrick
Fri Dec 10 2010, 08:19PM
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ASCII doesnt seem to work in the forum.
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it gives you half the error rate, and no corona on the meter, if you have the meter on the high side you will get bogus data due to unequal e-field division , and static influence on the A/D semiconductor.
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Pinky's Brain
Fri Dec 10 2010, 08:31PM
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That's not really different than simply using two resistor stacks on either side of the current meter, with the analog current meter he uses there is really no room to play with those two center resistors.

If you have two stacks in the first place though you might as well use 2 meters, more information and nearly the same effort.
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Patrick
Fri Dec 10 2010, 08:33PM
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Pinky's Brain wrote ...

That's not really different than simply using two resistor stacks on either side of the current meter, with the analog current meter he uses there is really no room to play with those two center resistors.

If you have two stacks in the first place though you might as well use 2 meters, more information and nearly the same effort.
if you use two meters or the same meter twice, your doubling your error rate.
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radhoo
Sat Dec 11 2010, 06:59PM
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Thank you for your comments.

I've decided to keep the 1GO resistor, despite the corona/static charges inside my meter, because I will use it with other HV measurements, not only this bipolar CW multiplier.

All understood, will post pics soon, and update the first post of this thread in case others need the info.
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Patrick
Sun Dec 12 2010, 05:44AM
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radhoo wrote ...

Thank you for your comments.

I've decided to keep the 1GO resistor, despite the corona/static charges inside my meter, because I will use it with other HV measurements, not only this bipolar CW multiplier.

All understood, will post pics soon, and update the first post of this thread in case others need the info.
there is no reason for corona to be in your meter, unless your doing something wrong.
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Proud Mary
Sun Dec 12 2010, 09:00AM
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Perhaps someone here should have a go at HV measurement with home-made Kerr cells.

It can't be worse than mucking around with all these potential dividers.
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Patrick
Sun Dec 12 2010, 07:13PM
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Proud Mary wrote ...

Perhaps someone here should have a go at HV measurement with home-made Kerr cells.

It can't be worse than mucking around with all these potential dividers.

Pockels, Kerr, and Faraday electrophysical measurement is looking better all the time, compared to all of this crap. But from where will i get the precious glass?
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Pinky's Brain
Sun Dec 12 2010, 07:29PM
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If you want really high voltages a Kerr cell would suffer the same problem as the resistor stack if you're not careful ... if you just shine the light through part of the cell you end up measuring the local electric field gradient caused by stray capacitance, although averaging across the complete stack could solve that.
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Patrick
Sun Dec 12 2010, 07:38PM
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Pinky's Brain wrote ...

If you want really high voltages a Kerr cell would suffer the same problem as the resistor stack if you're not careful ... if you just shine the light through part of the cell you end up measuring the local electric field gradient caused by stray capacitance, although averaging across the complete stack could solve that.
Pinky, my brain is a little slow today, please eleaborate.
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