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Firefox
Sun Jun 22 2008, 05:37PM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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Thank you Reaching, that helps a lot. About tuning the secondary to the 4Mhz crystal, why not use a NE555 or TL494 and tune the primary to the secondary circuit so that you don't have to be perfectly at 4MHz?
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Reaching
Sun Jun 22 2008, 07:41PM
Reaching Registered Member #76 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 10:04AM
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a ne555 and a tl494 cant get higher than max 2mhz, and at these frequencies, the discharge makes still a lot of noise. 4mhz is totally silent. i used a crystal oscillator cause it was easier, but for sure you can use a 74hc4046 or some other high frequency pll to tune for the right frequency.

but at class e its difficult and makes not a lot of sense to tune the oscillator, cause you have an adjusted class e circuit which is only efficiently at a given fres, so i thought, why not tune the seondary to a given primary frequency with good adjusted and efficient class e circuit.

its really easy to tune the secondary and it makes a lot more sense, in case of simplicity and efficiency.
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GeordieBoy
Sun Jun 22 2008, 07:50PM
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I designed my 4MHz and 8MHz HF-SSTC units with the same viewpoint. I used a fixed crystal oscillator and set up all the gate-drive and matching networks to work correctly at the operating frequency. The only things that needed tuning were:

1. The Fres of the secondary
2. The coupling factor to get correct Class-E waveform with a soft-landing
3. The shunt cap across the MOSFET to set the power level.

The optimum shunt capacitor value actually varies depending on the supply voltage. This is one of the things that hampers efficiency and degrades linearity when high-level Amplitude Modulation is applied to a class E amplifier.

I also agree with Reaching's statements about tuning and layout becoming more critical with increasing frequency. The coil became a lot more sensitive to its surroundings at 8MHz than at 4MHz. And at 18MHz things get very finicky.

-Richie,
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Firefox
Sun Jun 22 2008, 11:40PM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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Would this circuit work better in a Faraday cage to take away environmental EM interference then? In any case, I see your point about using the fixed frequency oscillator.
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teslacoolguy
Mon Jun 23 2008, 12:12AM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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Ok i tried to make the layout very low inductance and todays testing just led to a mosfet explosion sad and i am glad you told me that the shunt capacitor has to be of high quality. I dont have any pulse rated caps of that value so im probably going to end up sampling some cde caps for that.
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Myke
Sat Jun 28 2008, 05:59PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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If I wanted to make the same coil without the audio modulation section and also change the oscillator frequency, would I have to change T1, C4, and C5? Also what does C10 do? If I were to use a different MOSFET would I have to use a different cap (C10)?

really late edit:
HAHA. I laugh at myself now for asking these questions. It's a class E amp on the output so yeah, I would have to change stuff so everything switched at the right time.
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eniyuki
Tue Dec 22 2009, 05:22AM
eniyuki Registered Member #2148 Joined: Tue Jun 02 2009, 02:22AM
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Reaching wrote ...

Sorry for doubleposting. heres the improved shematic i use.. the layout is the same, just a few changes in resistor values and gdt and choke
1213634666 76 FT44674 Classefinal

can anyone tell me what is that QG1 there? i can see 1 4mhz xtal and a chip
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Experimentonomen
Tue Dec 22 2009, 09:22AM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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Its a crystal oscillator module, looks like a little rectangular metal box with four legs.
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eniyuki
Tue Dec 22 2009, 03:42PM
eniyuki Registered Member #2148 Joined: Tue Jun 02 2009, 02:22AM
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oh i see, didnt see one before. thank you
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eniyuki
Fri Dec 25 2009, 11:53AM
eniyuki Registered Member #2148 Joined: Tue Jun 02 2009, 02:22AM
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is this the right part for QG1 in the schematic?
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