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Zum Beispiel
Mon Oct 08 2007, 03:54PM
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Maybe you are simply not getting enough feedback on lower powers. It might be very destructive for your bridge if the problem doesn't go away at higher powers.

Few things to try:

-Make sure your ground is good.
-Try adding some more turns on the CT
-Make sure your clamping diodes aren't damaged, or any other parts for that matter.
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Oct 08 2007, 04:54PM
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Woot, it lives! The trick was to add a resistor across the CT (I've used 4k7 resistor). Also it helped removing turns from the CT, not adding. I'm a little worried the CT could raise the supply voltage for the 74hc14, I think I'll zener-clamp the CT just to be sure. This is a discharge I get with 160V to the bridge and 8 primary turns:
1191862378 152 FT31895 Pic1

I'll also be making a new resonator with more turns, this should help too.
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Ken M.
Mon Oct 08 2007, 07:04PM
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Whats the arc length, it looks like 1-3 inchs?
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uzzors2k
Mon Oct 08 2007, 07:18PM
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Congrats! You beat med getting streamers!
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Oct 08 2007, 07:24PM
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WhiteArc wrote ...

Whats the arc length, it looks like 1-3 inchs?
That arc is not big, about 1", but it tells that the coil is working well. No noticable heating of the fets with the fres around 600khz. I'll be removing turns from the primary until the fets start getting warm, then as time allows I'll wind the new (lower fres) resonator, looks like a lot of fun is coming smile
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Oct 09 2007, 08:01PM
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well, with the new secondary which is 2" taller (total 10" wingind length) than the old one and has ~2x the turns, the spark length didnt increase much. Previously it was something like 2" and now it is 3" at most.
1191959877 152 FT31895 Pic3



I'm using 4 primary turns with 160V to the bridge (with irfp250's), I think it's time to upgrade to 320V and irfp460's.

IIRC Steve Ward got 7" sparks with 4 turns and 160V, I don't know what the problem could be (if there is any).

Right now I have the primary just wound around the base of the secondary, should I make different primary for better results?

As for topload, should I use any? or is the nail I'm using now all right?
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Zum Beispiel
Wed Oct 10 2007, 09:15AM
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A topload should help to get those bigger sparks. How much power are you drawing?
If it's low, playing with the coupling helps.
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Ken M.
Wed Oct 10 2007, 12:42PM
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Thats odd JM, Cuz I too have built this and I'm running 160v of fullwave rectified, with out a topload I get giant 9-13" arcs, no idea what I get with a top load since I was more afraid of my antenna arcing to the topload. =( Heres the video of the arcs Link2
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Oct 10 2007, 02:38PM
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WhiteArc wrote ...

Thats odd JM, Cuz I too have built this and I'm running 160v of fullwave rectified, with out a topload I get giant 9-13" arcs, no idea what I get with a top load since I was more afraid of my antenna arcing to the topload. =( Heres the video of the arcs Link2
It says the file no longer exists frown

How big is your secondary and what type of primary are you using? and how moch power?

I'm drawing maybe 100W of power, with the interrupter at ~40-50% on time. The transistors are stone-cold on their little heatsinks, something must be limiting the power here but I have no idea what it is dead
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uzzors2k
Wed Oct 10 2007, 02:52PM
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jmartis wrote ...

I'm drawing maybe 100W of power, with the interrupter at ~40-50% on time. The transistors are stone-cold on their little heatsinks, something must be limiting the power here but I have no idea what it is dead

Coupling is a major part of determining power draw. I found Richie Burnett's site very informative. Link2
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