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Uspring
Wed Nov 23 2016, 11:16AM
Uspring Registered Member #3988 Joined: Thu Jul 07 2011, 03:25PM
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klugesmith wrote:
Mean free path for electrons is much greater than that for air molecules, at the same pressure.
Yep, about a factor of 5 for 100eV electrons. Got this from the "internet" and not from my own education as well as the statement, that todays light bulbs are gas filled frown

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Physikfan
Wed Nov 23 2016, 12:49PM
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I found an interesting paper on gas discharge in the internet:

https://mysite.du.edu/~jcalvert/phys/dischg.htm
http://www.physics.csbsju.edu/370/jcalvert/dischg.htm.html

The mean free path of electrons in a gas is also discussed as well as
1. voltage-current characteristics
2. sparks
3. glow discharges
4. arcs

Also:

http://www3.nd.edu/~sst/teaching/AME60637/notes/Go_ions_v4_031912.pdf
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Physikfan
Sat Apr 08 2017, 05:09PM
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Hi Klugesmith

"Physicsfan, are you equipped to extend Po's x-ray experiment using a high-vacuum pump and pressure gauge?"

Now I got a vacuum pump and a pressure gauge to do an experiment with a very old selfmade cold cathode discharge tube at different low pressures and at different voltages (different electron energies).

But still I have a problem.
Last time many years ago when I did this experiment the high voltage at the discharge tube destroyed my low pressure sensor.

I could switch on the pump and also the pressure gauge to get a certain pressure inside the discharge tube.
But before switching on the high voltage I should remove the pressure sensor from the equipment to be able to use this device a second time.
Or anybody has some hints for me to keep the pressure sensor alive when connected to the discharge tube?
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Proud Mary
Mon Apr 10 2017, 11:58AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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I'd like to point out that the radiographs mentioned above that I've made using very soft rays have been of subjects like flies' wings and microscopic plant sections.

Also: remember that the energy-response curve of uncompensated GM tubes is wildly distorted in the way of massive non-linear overcounting below about 75 keV. It wouldn't be unusual for a GM tube to over-count by a factor of twenty times and more when exposed to X-rays of 25 keV or so. This is because the counting efficiency increases in a non-linear way as more of the low energy photons are stopped in the counting gas.
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