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Sulaiman
Sun Dec 11 2016, 03:57PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Karmaslap wrote ...

I'm much more excited for the Japanese satellite that will extend a cable much further into orbit in an attempt to create a satellite which will not expend fuel to keep its orbit.

satelites flying kites ... brilliant !
(but of course you have to put the energy into the 'kite' first,
just replacing fuel/rocket with a winch/weight, or is there more to it ?)
it does look a little like a cheese-slicer to other satelites though cheesey

presumably this e-m drive is nuclear powered,
so why not just let some of the thermopile blackbody radiation radiate backwards ?
e.g. a large radioactive sheet, 'thrust' side radiates into space, the other side radiates less
as energy is extracted (thermopiles, heat-pipes, ion capture etc) from it for onboard electrical power requurements.
surely more efficient ?
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BigBad
Tue Dec 13 2016, 07:03PM
BigBad Registered Member #2529 Joined: Thu Dec 10 2009, 02:43AM
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No, you could push off the ionosphere in principle, like a linear induction motor, powered by solar panels. That way you wouldn't need any propellant.

But the coils would have to be big to interact with enough mass of plasma, but not necessarily very heavy, since wire is lightweight.

I think the emdrive test would also be solar powered.
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Karmaslap
Wed Dec 14 2016, 07:39AM
Karmaslap Registered Member #58215 Joined: Wed Dec 30 2015, 11:27AM
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BigBad has it down pat. I guess the US had some issues attempting something similar and gave up after an accident, but now the Japanese are trying.
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johnf
Thu Jan 05 2017, 06:55PM
johnf Registered Member #230 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 08:01PM
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And
The chinese have gusumped NASA
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Thu Jan 05 2017, 08:31PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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Have there been any results published by the Chinese? So far all I have heard is that they 'plan to conduct a test', or have possibly have conducted a ground based test with positive (but otherwise unpublished) results.
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