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Patrick
Fri Oct 07 2011, 06:25AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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Case mods have already been made: Clear top, new fan, larger heatsink, new logic PS.

I may switch over from the 555+7382 combination, over to the UC3526.

More modding and pics to come!
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Patrick
Sat Oct 08 2011, 10:53PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Need help on this... I cant get the Black text " Danger: High Voltage " to turn white on that red field,it just prints blacktext no matter what i change.

Any help please.. Im using AutoCAD 2007.


1318115048 2431 FT1630 Sam 0223



1318114402 2431 FT120576 Sam 0220
I need to spell check before the final proof print.

EDIT: fixed it!

1318118841 2431 FT1630 Sam 0225
LAbel looks real good, the JPEGification kinda spoils it in this pic though.


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Inducktion
Sun Oct 09 2011, 02:21AM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Also, Patrick, could you PLEASE explain to me how you used the half bridge gate drive IC? I have the chip you used, as well as the beefier version FAN7392, (sinks and sources 3 amps) and I can never get them to work properly... Even when following the datasheet!
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Patrick
Sun Oct 09 2011, 02:51AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Inducktion wrote ...

Also, Patrick, could you PLEASE explain to me how you used the half bridge gate drive IC? I have the chip you used, as well as the beefier version FAN7392, (sinks and sources 3 amps) and I can never get them to work properly... Even when following the datasheet!
You should have spoke up. Its easy to use. first they wont turn on below a certain voltage (UVLO) i think its 9 volts?

ill post a schematic of my own device, BRB in an hour i got to eat.

EDIT:
201609
This is the exact circuit i used for my single transistor flyback driver, If you bread board this we can see if it lights up a LED or something. ill talk you through it.

I used 1k pull down resistors on pins 2, 3 and 7.


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Patrick
Sun Oct 09 2011, 06:07AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Face plate done! I hope i spelled weverything right, or ill be doing it again.
1318140424 2431 FT120576 Sam 0232
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Inducktion
Sun Oct 09 2011, 03:31PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Patrick wrote ...

Inducktion wrote ...

Also, Patrick, could you PLEASE explain to me how you used the half bridge gate drive IC? I have the chip you used, as well as the beefier version FAN7392, (sinks and sources 3 amps) and I can never get them to work properly... Even when following the datasheet!
You should have spoke up. Its easy to use. first they wont turn on below a certain voltage (UVLO) i think its 9 volts?

ill post a schematic of my own device, BRB in an hour i got to eat.

EDIT:
201609
This is the exact circuit i used for my single transistor flyback driver, If you bread board this we can see if it lights up a LED or something. ill talk you through it.

I used 1k pull down resistors on pins 2, 3 and 7.




Oh, right, I forgot you were using to drive only one MOSFET.

I've never been able to get it to work right driving a half bridge, anyway. The high side just never wants to work!
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Patrick
Sun Oct 09 2011, 04:12PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Inducktion wrote ...

Oh, right, I forgot you were using to drive only one MOSFET.

I've never been able to get it to work right driving a half bridge, anyway. The high side just never wants to work!

We can fix that, whats your schematic look like? both my channels work, if you need the boot strap deal then you may need better components (if the high side doesnt work im suspicous its your boot PS that the problem.)
Are you using a push-pull CT, or the half bridge? one is easier then the other.


Lets start a thead in the HV section. label it FAN7382N or something.


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Patrick
Tue Dec 13 2011, 01:27AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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Ok mods and fixes complete.

accidental 4 inch arc flash to LV electronics, killed main MOSFET, both TVS's, Bridge rectifier, and my best transformer got smoked.

(Patrick <- depressed)

Ok having topped off the oil, so that 4 inch gap is now oil-not air, replaced and scoped all new semi's. interestingly enough the FAN7382 survived! (i hope it isnt one of the "zombie undead" semi's, that fail a few hours after overvolting.)

Ok the new flyback is installed, this time using the internal primary, meant for 65V, i currently drive it at 78 no load Volts. im sure theres some droop though once current starts getting switched. I should be switching 2 amps average and 4 amps peak throught the primary at about 70 volts.

It arcs every time continuosly across a gap of 1.2 inches and sparks to 1.4 inches intermitenly, in both cases gap electrodes are 0.44 inch dia. ball bearings.

Im thinking the HV out is 37 kV, at maybe 3-4 mA. so about 160 Watts.

Also, for my carbon fiber lifter, ill have to use a main gap of 2.5 or more inches.


EDIT: with no arcs or sparks present, and loaded only with my 10,000:1 Oscope probe (375 Mohm) it reads only 21kV !?


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Patrick
Tue Dec 20 2011, 05:55AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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Ok ive been having problems since the lo voltage side got hit with a 40kV spark.

ive gone through several of my precious STW13NK100Z's MOSFETs, even though before that bad spark i had not had a single mosfet fail. all of them failed the same way 0.01 ohms beteen all three pins, so i believe this indicates overvolting, not overcurrenting.

Until resolved im swithcing over to my cheaper more numerous HGTG7N60A4D IGBTs, this pic shows my new mods...


1324360508 2431 FT120576 Sam 0770
600 Volt IGBT, with a 300 volt unidirectional TVS from C to E, and an 18 volt bi-directional TVS from G to E... if this blows i dont know what else to try...

Gate drive appears to be way to low, like 3 volts, dont know why though.


I am seriously considering re-engineering the whole dam thing, getting rid of the 555 + FAN7382 and going with the UCC3526N. This will give me better wavform control then the 555, and current control.

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Patrick
Fri Dec 23 2011, 12:27AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
Posts: 5639
Pic update:


1324600055 2431 FT120576 Sam 0778cc
Mushroom HV momentary button added.


1324600055 2431 FT120576 Sam 0775cc
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