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need assistance on my first coil gun

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Yohan
Wed Mar 15 2006, 10:12PM
Yohan Registered Member #194 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:52PM
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Yes...but slow down. Might be premature for a transformer.

What potential would you like to charge to and what is your power supply?
I asked before, but what is the capacity of your capacitors...in uF?
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phil
Wed Mar 15 2006, 10:55PM
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Right now I am useing 1-2, 9 volt batteries. and i'm experimenting with 450 volt 22 uF capacitors. The coils i'm experimenting with are 12 turn, 4 layer. and made out of 24 AWG multistrand wire. I doubt that their strong enough to do much of anything. when i put power through it it's capable of moveing a wood screw about helf a centimeter. I've been looking online for magnet wire, and better capacitors. But before I buy anything I want to get something that kinda works.
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Tipp
Thu Mar 16 2006, 01:43AM
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450v @ 22uF isn't really a lot of energy:

Your cap = 2.2275 joules

Basic photoflash cap = 4.356 joules

So even a single modest photoflash cap would store more energy. How many of your caps do you have? A few in parellel would be perfect for shooting a small screw or nail.

Coils sound about right for a first CG.

wrote ...
Don't give the roadmap; make him dig a little. That's the only way he'll truly learn


Thats pretty much how I was introduced. People gave me basic information and I did all the research and homework until I felt confortable with it cheesey
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phil
Thu Mar 16 2006, 03:07AM
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so i'm not so far off!!! thats good to hear. I found a transformer from an old CNC machine i used to have and it converts 24 volts to 12 volts, so hopefully i can use this to either A. provide a steady power supply for the 555 timer and charging circuit. or B. use it to step up the voltage. Right now i can get the screw to move a little, and thats only with 3 volts, cant wait to see what it'll do with 400!! :)
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Simon
Fri Mar 17 2006, 01:25AM
Simon Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
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Your 24V:12V transformer won't work at 400V. The core will saturate but that's a topic for elsewhere.

The easiest way to into coilgunnery is with something with a camera flash in it. Then you have a cap and ready-made charger.

I think Barry made a number of low-voltage coilguns. Check the wiki coilgun page - there's a link to his site there too.
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Sebastian
Mon Mar 20 2006, 09:07PM
Sebastian Registered Member #233 Joined: Wed Feb 22 2006, 09:06AM
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... wrote ...

I am kind of reluctant to give information here for fear that Yohan might deem it inappropriate, but to charge a capacitor you need to connect both terminals to a dc source. Because for most coil guns you need several hundred volts batteries get expensive/bulkley, so most people turn to different charging methods. For a beginner coilgun I recommend taking to small 120v->12v transformers and hooking the 12v sides of the first one to the 12v side of the other one, then plugging the first one in so you get a relatively low current 120vac on the output. From there you can full wave rectify it to give about 170v, add a doubler to get 330v, or a tripler to get a little over 500v. Do not think of plugging a cap strait into a wall outlet.
Just be safe about it.

Here in Germany where we have 230VAC @ 50Hz I just use a 60W Light Bulb and a diode to charge my caps. The 60W bulb as a limiting resistor and the diode to get the positive part of the sine wave and therefor the RMS of 230VAC which is ~ 1,4 * 230VAC
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Maz
Tue Mar 21 2006, 12:38AM
Maz Registered Member #111 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:04AM
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the only thing i can say about giving him all the answers is,
when i started, i had no resources to go by. i experimented, and shocked myself enough to stop for a while. while i am still rather new at this, dont let your egos get in the way of helping him out. for instance help hime with a boost converter. even the theory is confusing to me still and i have made a few.
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