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Coronafix

Mon Oct 01 2007, 02:57AM

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Good work TDU, look forward to the end result!

Steve Ward

Mon Oct 01 2007, 03:51AM

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Hey, i think what Peter is doing is pretty fun

. I see no harm in it at all, so i dont know why Reaching is so uptight about it. While the idea to replicate the graphics of a video game might seem silly and trivial, i think Peter has been rather clever with all of his "analog" tricks to replicate what was dreamt up by some game programmer. In fact, rarely do coilers manage to take really nice pictures of their machines performing... i think he is taking that to a new level, which in my opinion is very cool.

Cain

Mon Oct 01 2007, 04:13AM

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if we have a look at this topic from a "non -coilers" point of view then the photo has just as much relevance as the coils we make...

they serve no real useful purpose.. they are art... fun to play and experiment with, and challenge yourself to get longer sparks...

yes the is a serious side.. the are VERY DANGEROUS but we all know that, and anyone who wants to build one will see the many many warnings about them..

but we all want to show our coils off.. I'm sure there isn't many coilers that make em and don't show there friends..

i think peter has just looked outside the box in ways to show his coil off

Tesladownunder

Mon Oct 01 2007, 04:14AM

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Thanks for the encouragement everyone.
Can't talk now, busy making Tesla supports in Soviet Red and getting my Tesla Trooper made before my base is rushed

TDU

Bjørn

Mon Oct 01 2007, 04:30AM

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I can't decide if this is harmless fun or if it is designed purely to generate the maksimum number of page views with the least amount of effort.

My best guess is that it is somewhere between.

Sulaiman

Mon Oct 01 2007, 05:26AM

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I have yet to see ONE practical use of a Tesla Coil by members of this forum - Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Coiling is primarily a hobby/amusement, some make a few bucks, all learn something.

If you can't have fun/entertainment with a hobby then what's it for?

Keep on coilin' Peter .... Good on ya mate!

The worst outcome is a slight addition to general misinformation amongst non-coilers
there's so much genuine misinformation out there in the 'new age' group that TDU's actions are negligible,
maybe many more coilers will arise to continue the hobby?

At the very least ,TDU has livened up this forum !

Tesladownunder

Mon Oct 01 2007, 07:22AM

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BjÃ¸rn BÃ¦verfjord wrote ...

I can't decide if this is harmless fun OR if it is designed purely to generate the maksimum number of page views with the least amount of effort.

The other Boolean Operator is AND.

Also harmless fun and maximum publicity is probably better than dangerous and unpleasant and no-one knowing about it.

Mind you the effort does not seem like the least amount yet but a few things are starting to take shape.

Supports are visible and the Tesla trooper has a vague outline.
"Rubber shoes in motion.."

1191223082 10 FT32031 Teslaraprototrooper

Bjørn

Mon Oct 01 2007, 07:25AM

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I have yet to see ONE practical use of a Tesla Coil by members of this forum - Please correct me if I'm wrong!

You are right in that tesla coils have little or no practical use in this form but the criticism is not on of practicality but something else. It is not about having fun either.

Let us look at cars as an example:
1. You can have fun by optimizing performance and efficiency to get you around the track as fast as possible.
2. You can have fun by degrading performance and efficiency by adding ineffective spoilers and neon lights and using trick photography to give the impression that performance has increased.

Both lack practicality, both are fun, yet there is a very significant difference. So it is clear that practicality and entertainment value are not the only factors.

My concern is that it all seems like a Google trap. Red alert is probably the most common part of popular culture that referst to tesla coils and the first paragraph seems to be written just for Google to find so lots of Red alert players will end up here. It might be coincidence but looking back it seems that the number of page hits seems to be a significant factor in these projects.

A part of this site has always been to show off projects but it has generally been projects does not depend on popularity for their existence. Now we are getting into the area of showing off just for the sake of showing off and that brings unpleasant associations to why this forum exists at all.

Tesladownunder

Mon Oct 01 2007, 07:43AM

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What Bjorn says is correct but the conclusion that 4HV will suffer google hits is probably less than he thinks. As evidence of the Tesla coil on the car, I am unaware that there was a big increase of hits to 4HV. Perhaps Chris knows.
What will happen is that I will have this on my site and blogs and forums will refer directly to my site.
I was going to say that Googling Red Alert and Tesla will not result in many hits to 4HV at all. I just checked and this thread was number 10 of 68,000 hits

Nevertheless once it is on my site that should take the hits, but I do not want to set that up until the pictures are optimised and that is still weeks away.

Anyway I don't think 4HV will suffer for it. Also it may be of little interest. It is hard to predict what will be popular.

TDU

Firnagzen

Mon Oct 01 2007, 10:15AM

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I'd agree with TDU. First, I'll point out that RAII is now considered an old game, and mostly out of favour, so really, how many people'd search 'red alert tesla coil'? Not too many!

Secondly. TDU does state that while not digitally faked, the image is only half the story. How is it different, really, from, say a movie? It's purpose is to entertain. P'rhaps TDU might want to add a disclaimer, but that's just an idea.

Reaching, umm... I appreciate that you're worried about persecution. But then, governments doesn't really operate on secret police style disappearances anymore.

Anyway, good work, Peter! By the way, why are you modelling a tesla trooper? If I remember correctly, they were immune to tesla coils. (I could be wrong, though. But logically, if they can have a protable one, they should be immune!)

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