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BigBad
Sun Mar 20 2016, 03:02PM
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If that's the only capacitive loading, sure. If there's other capacitance, then the resonant frequency will be somewhere else.

And even then, it depends whether it's being driven by anything, and you'd have to calculate the q-factor to find out whether it's a problem.
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Ash Small
Tue Mar 22 2016, 08:14PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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radiotech wrote ...

The output transformer has no DC current in primary. Does the plate choke maintain the inductance with the
DC current through it ? C3 seems to a standard polarized capacitor which may somewhat rectify the current and change
the sound from that had with a non polarized type.

Most output transformers are designed to perform with a DC component because of the gap.

Apparently the choke won't have a problem maintaining inductance. I'm using two Varley 20H @120mA chokes, and I'll be running them at a lot less than 120mA.

C3 is actually a motor run capacitor (or similar), non polarised and at least 400V. I'll probably use 630V, if I have any, or I could series a couple of 20uF 400V ones.

One of the beautys of this circuit is that you don't need a gapped O/T, you can use one from a push-pull type amp, which are a lot more common. C3 'should' provide overcurrent protection for the OT primary too, in case of a 'mishap'. I've read about a lot of 'fried' O/T's recently wink

BigBad wrote ...


Long answer: yes, the extra taps have capacitance that could make a difference even if they're not carrying current because they're repeatedly raised and lowered in voltage, but no it makes no difference, because that capacitance is minute. You'd only have to worry about the extra capacitance if the pickup was running at its self resonant frequency, which likely to be in the megahertz range; and enormously beyond the audible range, and is unlikely to be driven by anything.

If the pickup is not running at that frequency, then the extra few tens of picofarads is irrelevant.

Here's a graph depicting the response from a 'similar' pickup to the one presently in the guitar. It shows resonant frequencies with various value parallel capacitors, and the turquoise line is with no additional capacitance, just the pickup's response curve. The resonant peak is between 5kh and 6kH.


Caps



hen918 wrote ...


10H 20pF

1/(2π√(10*20*10^-12))­­­=11254Hz
That's Audible.


I guess Hen is 'in the ballpark', the inductance of the pickup used will be less than 10H, I imagine, so it has considerably more than 20pF capacitance wink
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Ash Small
Fri Dec 09 2016, 12:01AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Well, despite two bouts of pneumonia since I last posted any progress here, and loads of other stuff needing doing over the summer, and getting side tracked making jigs and templates to produce guitar bridges in batches, because of all the interest shown elsewhere on the internet where I've been researching this subject, I've now made some considerable progress with the 'test bed' that I intend to use for pickups.
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