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mister_rf
Tue Feb 17 2015, 09:43AM
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Up to 450V? amazed
Maybe that’s too much for such circuit. There occurs an overlapping conduction of both transistors because there’s no dead time between the upper and lower transistor.
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furnace
Tue Feb 17 2015, 10:09AM
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Cross conduction, that's what I thought. What to do? Do I need a new drive circuit and if so what would be a very efficient driver for high voltageses? Because I have 240v and mains.
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furnace
Fri Feb 20 2015, 07:16AM
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So I took out the tc drivers and added a ir2113
mosfet driver which is suppose to be dv/dt immune as they say.
Stil I'm burning switches.
As can be seen on the picture I stil have little cross conducting on the mosfets.
I already have 15ohm resistors in series.
What should I do to get a pure square wave?
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furnace
Wed Apr 01 2015, 02:36AM
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Can someone please help? When I connect my scope to ground it heats up the resistor and trips the mains power on my bridge.
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mister_rf
Wed Apr 01 2015, 07:49AM
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You need to implement some sort of dead-time in that circuit.
I think originally the zener diodes were used there for this job. Also see the discussion here:
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furnace
Wed Apr 01 2015, 01:08PM
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I do have the zeners on and the dead time is ok and I also have a very clean signal. My problem is the short that my probe is having. When I try to ground my scopes probe it starts heating up my resistor and on the probe until the main power trips. I loosened everything and checked all the connections. It seems that my probe ground makes a dead short to my variac even if the Mosfets are not turned on and also with the mosfets disconnected.
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Bjørn
Wed Apr 01 2015, 02:02PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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furnace wrote ...

My problem is the short that my probe is having. When I try to ground my scopes probe it starts heating up my resistor and on the probe until the main power trips. I loosened everything and checked all the connections. It seems that my probe ground makes a dead short to my variac even if the Mosfets are not turned on and also with the mosfets disconnected.
This is what is supposed to happen when you ground something that is not ground. The fuse is supposed to blow for safety reasons.

You have not given any schematics that explain what you do so not much to say except you need to learn the simple things before you try to do build something complicated and dangerous.
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furnace
Wed Apr 01 2015, 02:39PM
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Oops! So sorry, but this is my schematic.
1427899178 4992 FT168697 Variac Power Supplied
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Bjørn
Wed Apr 01 2015, 05:04PM
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furnace wrote ...

Oops! So sorry, but this is my schematic.
1427899178 4992 FT168697 Variac Power Supplied

And where exactly do you connect the oscilloscope when it goes wrong?
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furnace
Wed Apr 01 2015, 10:02PM
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My probe is directly on the gate and the ground of my probe is connected to earth ground through a 1k resistor.
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