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Bored Chemist
Thu Dec 18 2014, 04:02PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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Meanwhile, back at the topic
I still predict that "the enemy" will buy lots of silver paint.
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Patrick
Thu Dec 18 2014, 04:14PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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kapton and silver paint as with the black hawks, maybe to sacrificial fiberglass asbestos insulation. even 0.5 mm would greatly reduce this systems effectiveness. High temperature epoxy and glass fiber would take alot to punch through. presuming the small drones this system would take on, they'ed be on a one-way-trip, so failing to intercept would be failure to be worth carrying.

shooting the drones we've seen on test footage, we dont know how well they're built. Hire me to be the Red aggressor and ill build a real drone with real attack potential, then we'll see if they can down it. something tells me they want the money but dont want a fair demonstration. Im all for a time of development to bring a system up to capable, but its all suspicious to me.

The Phalanx rotary cannon can take on anything larger, with no paint out-witting 20mm incendiary explosive rounds. For micro drones perhaps 300 cal or 5.56mm NATO round version for that added poof factor, and still be quick to bare aganist pop-up targets.




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Conundrum
Thu Dec 18 2014, 07:08PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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What about simply making the drones invisible using electrochromic panels?
If you can't see them its mighty hard to shoot them down smile
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paris
Thu Dec 18 2014, 08:12PM
paris Registered Member #3042 Joined: Wed Jul 28 2010, 12:36AM
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you guys are just making stuff up now.....


the biggest threat to air space and nat secuity is pilot training colleges , they operate 5 days a week!
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Patrick
Thu Dec 18 2014, 10:40PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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paris wrote ...

the biggest threat to air space and nat secuity is pilot training colleges , they operate 5 days a week!
why bother with the college, its all controlled by the attacker. the attacker chooses when, which method and how much effort goes into the individual attempt. Harbors would be easiest to make an attack from.

they could send a 20 drone swarm, that'd be hard to down before enough got through. with modern weapons systems, like lasers and phased radar, 1 kg or pound of RDX closely put in, destroys the weapon system. then like battleships, your not really able to take part in modern sea warfare just float around and watch the battle. the ship would otherwise be left nearly unharmed, this would be the worst case for a superpower with shiny expensive toys, and the best case for a weak-whiny-flimsy nation.

even if this particular attack fails, the flimsy nation could just wait a week, month, or year and swing again.

no need to dump a 500 lb bomb or hurl a 1000lb exocet to kill the whole missile carrier anymore.


civillian airports would be even easier to attack, non maneuvering targets! radar, ILS, tower, aircraft parked. runways dont move, and you can cross the fence with 10 drones, and be gone in your car driving away (DC Sniper) before the first boom goes off.


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paris
Fri Dec 19 2014, 12:38AM
paris Registered Member #3042 Joined: Wed Jul 28 2010, 12:36AM
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ok, so Im not funny then
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Carbon_Rod
Fri Dec 19 2014, 01:01AM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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3 drones with Gold Foil Retroreflector Prisms on all sides could quickly redirect the beam back at the vessel or civilians.
The people that designed this are assuming an enemy is more mentally deficient.

Is it a drone... or a taxidermist's fake eagle... its very illegal to shoot at eagles...

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Andy
Fri Dec 19 2014, 05:40AM
Andy Registered Member #4266 Joined: Fri Dec 16 2011, 03:15AM
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Don't know about the laser, but the upscaled h&k311 with caseless rounds, tops 2100rpm 10 years ago, with a discovery channel a newer version with 10krpm and about 1k rounds.
Even with 2.57mm NATO rounds with 10k in the air in a second, then just reload.....

Wouldn't expect to much weapons to target a undersea remote controled version, a opaqe or what ever laser to water, would be better than a sea sprite.

you guys are just making stuff up now.....
angry
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Patrick
Fri Dec 19 2014, 08:18AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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paris wrote ...

ok, so Im not funny then
trying to be witty ?
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paris
Fri Dec 19 2014, 09:51AM
paris Registered Member #3042 Joined: Wed Jul 28 2010, 12:36AM
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Bored Chemist wrote ...

Meanwhile, back at the topic
I still predict that "the enemy" will buy lots of silver paint.


and glass!
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