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Mr.Black
Wed May 08 2013, 08:35PM
Mr.Black Registered Member #3960 Joined: Mon Jun 20 2011, 06:27AM
Location: Wuhan Hubei China
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Your QCW DRSSTC looks so beautiful!
I have a lot of problems.I'm building a QCW DRSSTC project.Hoping to get some help.
How much the TC HBridge's bus voltage waveform slope ? It is a linear law?
How to record the tank current waveform envelope?^^
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teravolt
Thu May 09 2013, 04:12AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
Location: Berkeley, ca.
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I am building a hand held version of the qcw that is about the same size as your coil and I was wondering if you would be willing to post a picture of the semiconductor face of your tesla. I was thinking of making my bridge of 4 hgtg27n120bn X 4 for a total of 16 devices do you think that it is over kill? I am trying to gauge how much power it takes to produce large sparks like your gif pictures and how big can they get. Do you think that the length of the arcs are due to the large electrolytic capacitors (energy storage) or the wall power you are supplying? thanks
1368072747 195 FT153579 Qcw
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dex
Thu May 09 2013, 10:11AM
dex Registered Member #2566 Joined: Wed Dec 23 2009, 05:52PM
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great work and fantastic tesla coil.
generating 7' long sparks in normal atmosfere with less than 100 kV top voltage is an amazing.
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Steve Conner
Thu May 09 2013, 10:25AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Performance is amazing! Must be the green topload that does it smile
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Steve Ward
Fri May 10 2013, 08:32AM
Steve Ward Registered Member #146 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:21AM
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Wow, totally awesome smile.

You mention 300A somewhere, which sounds about right. My original QCW managed only 6 foot sparks (~182cm) with ~270A drive, but it seemed to be going too far out of tune and i didnt have nearly the bus capacitor that you have, so it just never pushed any futher despite longer pulses. I find that adding secondary C helps with the detuning and keeps the primary current significantly lower.

I also am impressed with the size of your setup. Good old aluminum heatsinks will do the trick if the rep rate is low enough smile. We mainly rely on the copper tab of the TO-247 for pulses in the 20mS range, so it really comes down to if your IGBT has a big enough chip or not. It sounds like you are finding out what the absolute max pulse capacity of these IGBTs are!
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Intra
Sun May 12 2013, 10:25PM
Intra Registered Member #2694 Joined: Mon Feb 22 2010, 11:52PM
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Ээх, какая охуенная тесла.. Просто агонь!!!
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zrg
Mon May 13 2013, 02:41PM
zrg Registered Member #4762 Joined: Sun May 06 2012, 05:59PM
Location: Russia
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Semi-final setup.
The doubling of electrolytics and adding a bigger topload increased the perfomance (230+) cm, but unfortunately there's no place for more capacitance inside the case.
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teravolt
Tue May 14 2013, 04:05AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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I think you hold the spark length to secondary height ratio record. Exhalent work, your coil is more of a work of art. Do you plan on releasing any schematics so we can better understand it?
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Goodchild
Tue May 14 2013, 07:38PM
Goodchild Registered Member #2292 Joined: Fri Aug 14 2009, 05:33PM
Location: The Wild West AKA Arizona
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Wow, that's some awesome work! And you are only using a single full bridge of transistors? Very impressive work.
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dex
Fri May 17 2013, 08:36AM
dex Registered Member #2566 Joined: Wed Dec 23 2009, 05:52PM
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zrg wrote ...


The current limiter is set to 300A, which gives us ~60 kW of peak power through buck. It's amazing how much these small transistors can withstand cheesey However, in the end it banged with several kJ from lytics coming into my poor ears.

well,it would be interesting to estimate energy used to create 7' spark.

W=∫P(t)dt

assuming ~15ms ramp,and 60 kW peak power with linear rise of input power that would give:

W ~ 60kW×15ms/2 = 450 J
does this sound ok?
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