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Medium size DRSSTC - Primary Flat or Helical

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Killa-X
Mon Jun 11 2012, 01:25AM
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Verdict is, I'll try leaving it as a helical and see how things go. I have kicked 7ft out of it in the past, but i figured my tuning was horrible because it flashed over so much from the topload to the primary, racing sparks (its hard to tell if that bolt hits the ground, from a peice of wiring that was poking out, or if it was on the secondary)

No visual burns though, shiny poly still.

I figured it was bad tuning. Then when i clicked on burst mode, it went to HELL and i HAD to turned it off! X_X

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Could have been the secondary...or my wires.

Link2 In this video i tried burst mode at 1:50 but it really REALLY hated that...
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Goodchild
Mon Jun 11 2012, 07:13AM
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Oh my.... Please tell me that's not how you had your secondary wired to the toroid?!?!?! cry That wire is probably half your problem. Tuning is also not as big a deal as your issues with your coupling, resolve the coupling and that wire first and you will stop have problems with flashovers. Tuning comes second.


EDIT


I can see the spark coming off the tip of the wire in your photo and racing down the secondary...
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Killa-X
Mon Jun 11 2012, 03:47PM
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Seeing I had to build it with low cost materials, i had to connect the copper rings and the conduit using thin copper wire that I just twisted around each ring maybe 10 time, and secondary wire just connects to it. I had no better ideas, other than just take that wire and shove it up :P

I tried a solid AL topload, not at full power but, sparks were 100% the same as my topload in terms of length to power. If anything my topload (a little bigger) had better kick.

Pic2

Mind these pics are from the halfbridge days, taken like 5 months ago

[Edit: Oversize picture]
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Kizmo
Mon Jun 11 2012, 04:25PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
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Flashovers like that are classic symptom of bad tuning and overcoupling.

Higher coupling you have, more precise your tuning has to be.
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Killa-X
Mon Jun 11 2012, 08:38PM
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Is there a typical rule of thumb of how high you want your first secondary turn to be from the first (lower) primary turn? Or should I just make 5 woods blocks, 1/2" thick, 12" diameter, and stack one at a time, until the coil seems to perform best?
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Dr. Drone
Mon Jun 11 2012, 09:57PM
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Killa-X
Tue Jun 12 2012, 04:19AM
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Thanks for the tips. Sounds like something I'll have to do down at the lab where I have space to blast arcs big enough to flash over hehe. But i got things to do before then. Such as a better primary tap. Right now, I have a bent copper 1/4" hook, just resting on a tap. Rather sucky isnt it :D
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