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Platinum
Wed Feb 29 2012, 12:30PM
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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Tom Williamson wrote ...

Just.. learn how it works inside out and dont kill yourself with it, a halfbridge can be more dangerous then a ZVS if used in the 'correct' way, i was really worried when you were saying how youve been getting electricuted by the ZVS i sold you... just stay alive

-Tom Williamson

I going to go halfbridge, if I die I die, which I wont....The ZVS you sold me was fail, I've made it alot better...
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Alex M
Wed Feb 29 2012, 02:31PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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HighVoltageChick wrote ...

Ask quack, he is telling me how to make one.
this is the schematic he's telling me to use:
Link2


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Daedronus
Wed Feb 29 2012, 06:20PM
Daedronus Registered Member #2329 Joined: Tue Sept 01 2009, 08:25AM
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lol, my feelings exactly

on the other hand not long ago I was trying to drive high side mosfets with low side drivers and wandering why it didn't work.

in my case just as in this case the problem is a lack of understanding of basic stuff.
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Platinum
Wed Feb 29 2012, 07:35PM
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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Yes I'm a noob, but I have basic understanding how 555 and halfbridges work...

I would like to build a simple h bridge...
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Patrick
Thu Mar 01 2012, 03:16AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Platinum wrote ...

... but I have basic understanding how 555 and halfbridges work...
I think not, or your previous circuits would be working well by now.

I dont want to discourage you, or be too harsh, but thats how i see it. Also you really need a O-scope for a full h bridge, the timing of the gate waveforms are pretty important.
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teravolt
Thu Mar 01 2012, 04:43AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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hi Platinum, a 555 has a voltage range of 3-18 rail voltage . take R4 and put it in series with the drain and ground your source same as pin 1 on the 555. you could try putting your uf4007 in series with R4 as I sujested or in parallel with the drain and source. I suspect that you are getting kickback from your coils. each one has a sertian amount of resonance so you want to turn your fet on for only 180 of that frequency. to do this you may want to convert your 555 to a straight oscilator and add a one shot and driver to the output for gate drive.
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teravolt
Thu Mar 01 2012, 05:30AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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like this
1330579850 195 FT134970 Car Ciol Driver 1
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Platinum
Thu Mar 01 2012, 10:20PM
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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Patrick wrote ...

Platinum wrote ...

... but I have basic understanding how 555 and halfbridges work...
I think not, or your previous circuits would be working well by now.

I dont want to discourage you, or be too harsh, but thats how i see it. Also you really need a O-scope for a full h bridge, the timing of the gate waveforms are pretty important.


When I said basic understanding, I meant it...

Yes I need a O-scope, but I don't have the money...
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teravolt
Thu Mar 01 2012, 10:40PM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
Location: Berkeley, ca.
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for something basic you could get one of those 1MHz color one chanel 100$ hand dso scope would get you over the hump. I also bought a old tecktronics scope for 100 on ebay
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Xray
Fri Mar 02 2012, 04:35AM
Xray Registered Member #3429 Joined: Sun Nov 21 2010, 02:04AM
Location: Minnesota, USA
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teravolt wrote ...

for something basic you could get one of those 1MHz color one chanel 100$ hand dso scope would get you over the hump. I also bought a old tecktronics scope for 100 on ebay

Yes, you can get a very nice tektronix scope for a fraction of the original cost. I bought a model 453 dual channel, dual trace portable scope for $160.00 a few years ago, and it's been one of my most valuable and most used pieces of test equipment.

I've heard mixed reviews of those little color pocket scopes. I never played with one, so I don't know how good or how bad they are, but in my opinion if you're going to spend that much money for scope, you would be better off buying a used American made tek or hp scope. Just make sure that the buyer gives you some sort of guarantee or right of return in case it doesn't work, or is in poor condition.
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