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guitarlord66
Wed Feb 25 2009, 10:37PM
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hotcrazyfruit wrote ...

Have you tried using a dril press? with the rail assembly in a perpendicular jig? i beleive you could do that. but the router idea might not work. because the round coil projectile, would only contact at one very small point on the projectile. which may cause welding if you decide to upgrade the bank. i still think you should go with drilling a hole between them.

Ok, I might try again but I'll have to make up a bracket to hold it once I made it, I destroyed my old railgun trying to drill a hole through it.
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j.azz
Thu Feb 26 2009, 05:00PM
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What about drilling a solid alu/copper block and then cut it into two halfs with two cuts?
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guitarlord66
Fri Feb 27 2009, 02:32AM
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j.azz wrote ...

What about drilling a solid alu/copper block and then cut it into two halfs with two cuts?

Thanks not a bad idea! cheesey
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rp181
Fri Feb 27 2009, 02:41AM
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That would only work if the copper is separated by the thickness of the blade. I suggest drilling a hole, and cutting it in half. Get a rod the same diameter as the hole, and keep cutting till the slit is wide enough.
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j.azz
Fri Feb 27 2009, 04:17PM
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Well, I suggested 2 cuts parallel to each other. which is quasi the same... ;)
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guitarlord66
Sat Feb 28 2009, 11:51AM
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Instead of using alluminium foil around the projectile I'm going to try making this - Coveroff2
Coveron2

The steel projectile will be inside a 1mm alluminium tube.
I have access to a metal lathe.
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hotcrazyfruit
Sat Feb 28 2009, 11:35PM
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a 1mm projectile will be very small, it will saturate very quickly, saturation is when a farrace material becomes so "saturated" with electro magnetism, and cannot become any more saturated. meaning there is a limit on the acceleration of the projectile, untill you start using more dense projectiles, or larger projectiles. the other option to eliminate this saturation limit is to split the discharge among multiple stages, this can be done via led and a photo transistor, and an SCR to trigger each succeeding stage. i would recommend you do this if you are using a small projectile. make sure you get the sttachment, its my program i made in turing, feel free to distribute to every one else. make sure that all calculations may be slightly off, and that there are other losses other than the ones you input. xD. good luck.
]coilgun.zip[/file]
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guitarlord66
Sun Mar 01 2009, 12:18AM
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hotcrazyfruit wrote ...

a 1mm projectile will be very small, it will saturate very quickly, saturation is when a farrace material becomes so "saturated" with electro magnetism, and cannot become any more saturated. meaning there is a limit on the acceleration of the projectile, untill you start using more dense projectiles, or larger projectiles. the other option to eliminate this saturation limit is to split the discharge among multiple stages, this can be done via led and a photo transistor, and an SCR to trigger each succeeding stage. i would recommend you do this if you are using a small projectile. make sure you get the sttachment, its my program i made in turing, feel free to distribute to every one else. make sure that all calculations may be slightly off, and that there are other losses other than the ones you input. xD. good luck.


I must have written it wrong... the projectile is 5mm diameter and 30mm long with a 1mm tube of alluminium that wrappes around the projectile like in the pics and thanks for posting the app I'll have a look at it now.
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hotcrazyfruit
Sun Mar 01 2009, 03:01AM
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ahhhh i see. sorry for the long and boring explanation :\ lol. that sounds alot better than 1 mm. if you decide to ever increase the power though, remember to always move to a larger projectile or split the discharge among multiple stages. and have fun with the app, i use it all of the time for my coil guns / rail guns.
cheers,
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rp181
Sun Mar 01 2009, 03:34AM
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Not to put you down, but that app seems kind of pointless to me. You need to know the information in the first place to get your input value( projectile speed, joules). Keep at it, and you can make some nice programs. I made one awhile back, some fields are extra ( I use it to export data) but the formula's are right.
Link2

I am kind of confused by this thread, all i see is a railgun, but no coilgun.

Good luck.
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