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c4r0
Fri Feb 01 2008, 09:49PM
c4r0 Registered Member #151 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 02:53PM
Location: Poland
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Hi! This is cool amazed It's great idea to use these caps. I have some MO parts laying around so afrer reading this topic I tried it too. Here's my results on youtube: Link2 , Link2
and some photos :)

1201902248 151 FT38015 Dsci2950 1201902248 151 FT38015 Dsc04684 1201902248 151 FT38015 Dsc04711

1201902248 151 FT38015 Dsc04716 1201902248 151 FT38015 Dsc04732 1201902248 151 FT38015 Imgp2213

1201902248 151 FT38015 Imgp2214 1201902248 151 FT38015 Imgp2226 1201902248 151 FT38015 Imgp2236

jmartis wrote ...
Can anyone tell me where can I find free MOTs? neutral I went around a lot of those recycle scrap yards (or how they call it), there were a lot of TVs but not a single MO.
What about aukro? Link2 I bought a few broken MOs on our polish internet auction service allegro Link2 (looks like we have a bit more MO's than aukro tongue ) for equivalence of 300-400Kc each. It's a good deal becouse I can take out the magnetron and easily sell it for the same price. Then I have rest of the parts for free smile
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Nik
Sat Feb 02 2008, 01:32AM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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I took a shot at this resonant mot stuff as well.
Link2
More pics in the random chat forum.
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Marko
Sat Feb 02 2008, 02:26AM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
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C4r0 these are awesome pics. How do you get these colors.

What camera is that.
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c4r0
Sat Feb 02 2008, 10:05AM
c4r0 Registered Member #151 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 02:53PM
Location: Poland
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Just set white ballance for sunny day :) These pics was not edited, only resized. I use sony dsc-f707 (drawing arc pics) and my brother's pentax k100d (ladder pics). For movies i use praktica dcz 5.8 :)
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uzzors2k
Tue Mar 25 2008, 05:43PM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
Location: Norway
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W00t, I tried this and the arcs are amazing! I love that crackling sound of mains in the arcs. I made a video which I can't seem to upload and took some screenshots from it.

Jan, I tried a primary shorted MOT as a ballast on the secondary and it seems to work fine. No extra caps required, although they might make an improvement like you say. I haven't got enough to test it. The breaker does trip on start-up sometimes, but I think that could be fixed with something as ghetto as a NTC. Or the power resistors which come with most MOTs in the mains filter section.

1206466770 95 FT38015 Arc3 1206466770 95 FT38015 Arc7 1206466770 95 FT38015 Arc8

1206466770 95 FT38015 Arc5 1206466770 95 FT38015 Arc6


1206466770 95 FT38015 Arc1 1206466770 95 FT38015 Arc2
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Mar 25 2008, 05:50PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I can see some serious arcing there Uzzors cheesey

Btw. I will try soon with 3+3 caps, the arcs should increase ~30-50% in length


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Marko
Tue Mar 25 2008, 05:59PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
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W00t, I tried this and the arcs are amazing! I love that crackling sound of mains in the arcs. I made a video which I can't seem to upload and took some screenshots from it.

Jan, I tried a primary shorted MOT as a ballast on the secondary and it seems to work fine. No extra caps required, although they might make an improvement like you say. I haven't got enough to test it. The breaker does trip on start-up sometimes, but I think that could be fixed with something as ghetto as a NTC. Or the power resistors which come with most MOTs in the mains filter section.

Uhh Uzzors would you *please* use a longer chicken stick? cry Something like meter and half at least, that looks very hazardous. Mot's look so small near those arcs.

To prevent breaker from tripping at startup use a 100..1000ohm resistor in series to run up the magnetizing current, and then short it out by a switch or relay.


Who here said that he has done this with a pole pig and got 2 meter arcs? suprised

I'd *really* want to see some pictures or videos of that.

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Shaun
Tue Mar 25 2008, 06:57PM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 616
This has to be THE most dangerous thing done on these forums, even up there with some of the closed threads in the Chemistry section...

...which is exactly why its so much FUN!!
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uzzors2k
Tue Mar 25 2008, 08:27PM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
Location: Norway
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Video-> Link2

Marko wrote ...

Uhh Uzzors would you *please* use a longer chicken stick? cry Something like meter and half at least, that looks very hazardous. Mot's look so small near those arcs.
Yeah, I was having second thoughts about it too. But the voltage it so low that as long as I don't get an arc wrapped around my arm I'll be ok. I will look for a longer chicken stick, so you can rest easy tonight. wink

Plasmaddict wrote ...

Btw. I will try soon with 3+3 caps, the arcs should increase ~30-50% in length
I can't wait. shades
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Kizmo
Tue Mar 25 2008, 08:31PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
Location: Northern Finland, Rovaniemi
Posts: 624
1206477733 599 FT1630 Resonance

Pretty good resonance but i was limited by 16A fuse


Im hoping that some day i can afford electrician to install 100A outlets (i have 250A main breakers but no more than 16A outlets)
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