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Steve:
Well stated. Correct, the electrolyte used in early versions of the Zamboni are reported to be paper moistened only by the ambient humidity of the surrounding air. Other later versions added some magnesium to the paper, but all in all, the very weak electrolyte is apparently the reason for the 50-100 year lifespan of this style battery. Some articles report the Zamboni has been successfully used in military applications to power night-vision scopes. I know what I'm good at, and I know what I'm not good at... I would not be good at assembling thousands of metal and paper discs in a column, mechanical fabrication just isn't my strong point. HOWEVER, I am willing to pay handsomely for someone else who is gifted in mechancial applications to build a couple Zamboni batteries for me.
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Wow, this must be getting annoying for CM, so I am putting an end to this debate: I could build one for you. Please PM me about the details, ie. how much you would be willing to pay, when you need it done, what specs you want it to have.
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Steve Conner wrote ...
How will you send a 3 foot long 10,000 volt battery through the mail? You can't turn the voltage off without dismantling it.
Very simple. It can be crated and well insulated. As long as its well insulated, no current will flow between terminals. And 10,000 volts really isn't that high a voltage where insulation has to be excessive. Should be able to fit it in a 5ft x 2ft square crate with no problems.
Of course you'd probably have to ship it surface which will take a long time . . . Air would be very expensive for something this size.
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I suppose it could easily be made modular in a couple of 1kV segments, which could then be put together by CM himself. This would make shipping much easier. Hey, I am not proposing to build a realistic remake of one of the historic batteries here, I would make a few changes to reflect the 100 years of industrialization that have happened since
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Oh well, i would take a 2m long pvc pipe, build a 50kv multiplier and put in a hv/hf transformer with driving cct and a rechargable nimh battery pack. It does the same thing but is a little simpler to build (no >10kg of silver necessary) and works cheaper (rechargable).
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It sounds very similar to the old capacitors. Perhaps, Zamboni’s device was not perpetual but had an atmospheric charging potential based on electrostatics like large capacitors left open.
One may wish to look into finding someone with a round-button-die press for pins. I really hope you found a good lawyer to do your legal work. Patents can suck the fun out of just about anything (see WIPO.)
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Seeking to hire someone to fabricate Zamboni HV battery
I really hope you found a good lawyer to do your legal work. Patents can suck the fun out of just about anything (see WIPO.)